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Their hardware is usually fine when it comes to support. Google announces the support lifetime of their devices and sticks to it, with feature updates coming to

Their hardware is usually fine when it comes to support. Google announces the support lifetime of their devices and sticks to it, with feature updates coming to things like phones even after the support period ended through things like app stores. Just check the support lifetime of the device before buying (early Pixels only had 2 years of support, as was announced at release). Their cloud services are nothing but hot air but their hardware support has been excellent for the past few years. Easily beats other major manufacturers. I'm still annoyed that Apple won't tell you how long they will support their hardware. Other competitors manage to be even worse.

treexs 6mo ago
I thought Apple does tell you how long they'll support hardware. For example: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102772 https://support.apple.com/en-us/102772
- rvnx 6mo ago
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  - janfoeh 6mo ago
    No, they do not, and they did not. They started throttling devices based on battery age after "Batterygate" in 2016, after a wave of news that their phones were suddenly shutting off on high load because the batteries terminal voltage dropped. They do not "artificially slow down before a new release". The were sued because in their typical arrogance, they neglected to _tell_ people about that. They did not lose, they settled a class action suit. As a result, they made battery management and state a lot more transparent in iOS, as they should have done in the first place. Claiming malicious planned obsolescence, as you did, requires facts not in evidence.
    - rvnx 6mo ago
      Try iOS 26, you'll see what it means in practice, you will get a phone with worse battery life, slower operating system and no path to downgrade, only way is to upgrade your phone to the next big thing. If it's not malicious, then it's gross incompetence, but at the end of the day, it will still eventually require to purchase a new Apple device, when a downgrade would have been enough. It's not the first time even: https://www.thecooldown.com/green-business/iphone-update-issue-apple-reddit/ https://www.thecooldown.com/green-business/iphone-update-iss... <iPhone user sparks debate after device becomes ruined following mandatory update: 'This is just ridiculous'> It's a long-term issue, because even if it will get fixed in two years, then the battery damages due to severe drain are permanent, and this is to be paid with your pocket, or again... upgrade to a new iPhone. It's not the first cycle like this, slower software is deployed to all iPhones, older iPhones lag, and you have to purchase the fresh new iPhone. == "Apple implemented unfair commercial practices", the Italian competition authority said in a statement (after fining Apple). The companies encouraged users to upgrade operating system software but did not make clear the increased demands that new software would make on smartphones, according to the authority. This "caused serious malfunctions and significantly reduced performance", which provoked users into upgrading their devices, the authority said. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45963943 == This is about the generic software updates. The main issue is that you have no path to downgrade, no way to use your own OS, and your only choice is to hope for an update from Apple that will revert back your device to its normal way of working, or, purchase a new phone, which won't have this issue. It's literally impossible that they have not noticed, so if not planned obsolescence, at least, it is intentional degradation of existing products (or that their team is not able to notice...) It's rather the other proof around that we would like to see, that Apple did not know the impact of what they are doing. If they knew, you know what it means.
    - wavemode 6mo ago
      > They did not lose, they settled a class action suit. I mean... settling means you lost, almost by definition. You were sued and then paid the person who sued you. Settling is the result of almost all lawsuits where the company knows they were at fault - why would you go to trial if you know you're going to lose? Now, don't get me wrong - your overall point could still be correct. Many companies who still do believe themselves to not be at fault, offer a settlement purely for the reason that it's cheaper in terms of legal fees (or perhaps less of a PR nuisance, or just generally lower-risk) than going to trial.
      - dragonwriter 6mo ago
        > I mean... settling means you lost, almost by definition. No, since "settling" is something both sides do, if it were losing, it would be both sides losing. Settling is a decision to compromise to mitigate the cost of litigation (and in the US, which does not have loser pays as the default rule, that can be quite expensive even if you win) as well as the risk of loss. You can’t really characterize it as being more "winning" or "losing" for anyone one party without a much more detailed consideration of the specific terms and the expected costs of litigation, etc.
        wavemode 6mo ago
        > You can’t really characterize it as being more "winning" or "losing" for anyone one party without a much more detailed consideration of the specific terms and the expected costs of litigation, etc. Yeah... you can. The party suing received $500 million. That's a win. Yes, a settlement has to be agreed on by both sides, but that doesn't mean the party suing didn't win. It just means that, maybe they could have won more. Where you and the parent commenter are correct is that, the result of this case is not the same as a court verdict regarding the legality of Apple's conduct. That part true - if we're talking about "was Apple truly intentionally killing their phones to get you to buy a new one", the outcome of the case says nothing about that. But to make a statement like "they didn't lose, they settled" is just misleading. Almost every company that has ever done something illegal settled, that's not an argument either. This case had at least enough merit to spook Apple into coughing up over half a billion dollars ($500 million to the class action and $100 million to the coalition of state attorneys general who sued Apple for deceptive practices). (Again, not proof of guilt but at least evidence of the claims having some merit.) In the grand scheme of things they definitely lost.
    - Yizahi 6mo ago
      Of course they did. My iPad 2 worked perfectly up until iOS6 and crawled to a screeching halt after upgrading to iOS7. Constant lags, freezes, sometimes even crashes of the same apps which worked fine a week before. And to protect consumers even more, Apple blocks firmware downgrade, despite old version working just fine for years later.
  - dmitrygr 6mo ago
    That is a gross misrepresentation of the situation. Old batteries' internal resistance rises and they become unable to deliver high current. If you try, thanks to V=IR, the output voltage will droop and you'll brown out. Limiting CPU speed prevents high current draw and random device resets. The alternative was to let it run fast and have it randomly reset under load even when battery is 50% full. All of this is only relevant cause apple devices are often used for so long after release (5-7 years, this message typed on a 5 year old iPhone) [1] (random source, more available on google.com) while statistically few android devices last long enough in consumer pockets for this to matter (2.5-3 years is average) [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9uha1o/android_vs_ios_phones_in_terms_of_longevity/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9uha1o/android_vs_...
    - Lammy 6mo ago
      Who designed the phone to not have a user-replaceable battery, making CPU speed limiting guaranteed to occur with age?
  - kajman 6mo ago
    I like to keep phones a long time. Before I finally slotted in a sketchy new third party battery, my last android would suddenly shut off at anywhere from 15-30℅ battery remaining because of the voltage drop. I think they deserve a pass for that "scandal".
    - rvnx 6mo ago
      https://youtu.be/YfnfhM4O_S8?t=202 https://youtu.be/YfnfhM4O_S8?t=202 45% battery on iOS 18 25% battery on iOS 26 (which corresponds to iOS 19) ... This is 2026 https://www.ladbible.com/technology/iphone-ios-update-26-delay-trick-899532-20260511 https://www.ladbible.com/technology/iphone-ios-update-26-del... (sadly got stuck with that degraded phone because the Apple Watch that refuses to pair if you run iOS 18)
      - panopticon 6mo ago
        The timestamped part of the video shows an iPhone 15 and 17, both on iOS 26.3. 45% on the iPhone 17 and 25% on the iPhone 15. Only the iPhone XR in that test is on iOS 18. It scored behind all of the models on iOS 26.3 except for the iPhone SE. But that's not a useful comparison because who knows what condition the XR's battery is in at this point, and nothing else ran on a comparable iOS version. Not sure what point you were trying to make with that video, but it doesn't really demonstrate cross-version battery performance.
    - meatbundragon 6mo ago
      I've never seen this with Pixels
- chocochunks 6mo ago
  That's not how long they will provide software support. It's how long you can get a hardware repair. Some "vintage" products will get current software support but not others. Some products have lost software support before even reaching "vintage" like the first Gen iPad.
- jeroenhd 6mo ago
  That page shows "vintage" products, which is a category they apply after "5 to 7 years". It describes replacement parts and (bought) maintenance service in store locations. They don't state how long they will provide software updates.
throwaway030 6mo ago
My Pixel 3A stopped receiving security updates after less than 3 years. I remember Google did this to start using their own chips in their phones. Two or three years is not even close to the support Apple provides. It sealed the deal for me and I switched to iPhone.
- joshuamorton 6mo ago
  Yes, they've since more than doubled the support lifetimes to seven years.
  - o_m 6mo ago
    It's only been 2.5 years since they said that. I'm sure they will walk back on their word before it has been 7 years.
    - morsch 6mo ago
      The increased update timelines by Google, Samsung and others roughly coincided with EU legislation coming into effect that mandates 5 years of updates after end of sales. We'll see. https://www.heise.de/en/news/From-June-20-EU-gives-smartphones-a-label-and-a-guaranteed-update-time-10359716.html https://www.heise.de/en/news/From-June-20-EU-gives-smartphon...
      - danudey 6mo ago
        Correction: if the manufacturer chooses to provide updates, and they don't have to, they must continue to make those updates available for five years after end of sales. In other words, manufacturers aren't required to publish updates at all, but if they do provide updates they have to make them available to users for five years after they stop sales. This only stops the case where a manufacturer ships a device and publishes updates for the device, but then takes those updates offline after they stop selling the device (but before 5 years is up). https://www.theandroidportal.com/motorola-android-update-loophole-eu/ https://www.theandroidportal.com/motorola-android-update-loo...
Aurornis 6mo ago
> Their hardware is usually fine when it comes to support. Google announces the support lifetime of their devices and sticks to it If they announce a support lifetime they stick to it. For other products they'll just decide they're done with it and give you a little warning period. Maybe some store credit or another bonus depending on the product.
smallmancontrov 6mo ago
> early Pixels only had 2 years of support, as was announced at release They also announced a promotion for unlimited cloud storage of photos and then shrank and JPEG massacred the photos. That part of my photo library is still visibly trashy to this very day. Every time I browse my photos, I am reminded that google did this.
notatoad 6mo ago
"support" meaning drivers and basic security updates, sure. but if you buy this for the gemini integration, what are the odds that google actually sticks with that, or two years from now are you going to have a laptop that lags behind the feature set available in the gemini app for mac because they didn't sell enough of these to bother continuing development?
- TheDong 6mo ago
  Google also has a better track record than some companies (cough apple) of keeping their devices unlockable/open enough that they can have a second life regardless of whether google keeps up on the software side. You can install linux on the nexus 7 tablets. You can install linux on the old PixelBook or Chromebook Pixel. An iPad bought at the same time as the nexus 7 (the original iPad air) has become a useless insecure brick that can't even load modern websites, let alone support linux. The nexus 7 can have linux or a custom android rom flashed to work fine, albeit with a pretty crappy processor.
- jeroenhd 6mo ago
  The Gemini app has been backported to at least Android 14 as far as I could tell (that's the oldest OS I saw it on), probably further. Hard to say they're going to keep giving you new features, but buying a device for the future things that may be brought to it is always a massive gamble, like buying a Macbook for their failed promise of Apple Intelligence or a Windows laptop for the promised advantages of Copilot. If the device works well enough to be worth the money, it'll keep working. If you want fancy stuff in the future, hold off on buying new hardware and wait until the stuff you want is actually available.
nullocator 6mo ago
What about Nest? It's great that they announced a lifetime and stuck with it I guess? Sucks for anyone who bought into the ecosystem. You'd have to pay me to try and adopt more google products at this point, otherwise it's almost certainly sooner or later going to be deemed a waste of money/time.
ahmadyan 6mo ago
yeah, even on product lines that they kill (like Stadia) they usually do right by the user (eg they refunded everyone, both on hardware and software people bought on the platform).
simonjgreen 6mo ago
Hmmmmmmmm Nest Secure Google Home Stadia Daydream Glass Nexus Pixel Slate Pixelbook Chromecast Audio OnHub Jamboard
- cwillu 6mo ago
  The list of departed google products could be put to the music of the names of the countries of the world.
- rv3392 6mo ago
  I think there's a difference between cancelled (or renamed in the case of Google Home and Nexus) product lines and something no longer working. Most of that list falls into the former, but otherwise probably work fine. This Googlebook will probably be a lot like the Pixelbook. Probably cancelled after 1 generation, but still usable for 5-10 years as you'd expect from a laptop.
- adi_kurian 6mo ago
  My chromecast audio still works great.
- adi_kurian 6mo ago
  My chromecast audio still works great. No idea about the rest, but that I do know.
- kissickas 6mo ago
  They refunded me all the money I spent on the Stadia + games and unlocked the video game controllers so I can use them with other systems... my only regret is that I didn't buy more
  - haritha-j 6mo ago
    I know right? And I ended up getting a chromecast free through that refund as well.
- jeroenhd 6mo ago
  I don't have most of those, but from the entire list I only recognise Stadia as something that stopped working entirely, and I got my full purchase price back for that. Chromecast still works great.
mattmaroon 6mo ago
Apple might not specify a time upfront but they do consistently support hardware for a good length of time. IPhones generally get OS updates for 5-6 years and security for at least a couple more. I’ve never used anything they made long enough to get there.
sbochins 6mo ago
My nest thermostat disagrees with your optimism.
entropie 6mo ago
> Their hardware is usually fine when it comes to support. Pixel stands were horrible. And discontinued.
yolovoe 6mo ago
My experience with Google hardware has been the opposite. Three early Pixel phones died within a year or two, and pretty abysmal experience with Pixel Buds. They'd send me replacements, but I tired of them breaking. I switched to an iPhone after being a long-time Android fan. Haven't looked back. Converted my wife to an iPhone too. Apple is better at hardware. iPhones also receive security updates for a long time. I buy iPhone 3+ generation old brand new at the Apple store, and it... works really well.

treexs 6mo ago

I thought Apple does tell you how long they'll support hardware. For example: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102772 https://support.apple.com/en-us/102772

rvnx 6mo ago
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- janfoeh 6mo ago
  No, they do not, and they did not. They started throttling devices based on battery age after "Batterygate" in 2016, after a wave of news that their phones were suddenly shutting off on high load because the batteries terminal voltage dropped. They do not "artificially slow down before a new release". The were sued because in their typical arrogance, they neglected to _tell_ people about that. They did not lose, they settled a class action suit. As a result, they made battery management and state a lot more transparent in iOS, as they should have done in the first place. Claiming malicious planned obsolescence, as you did, requires facts not in evidence.
  - rvnx 6mo ago
    Try iOS 26, you'll see what it means in practice, you will get a phone with worse battery life, slower operating system and no path to downgrade, only way is to upgrade your phone to the next big thing. If it's not malicious, then it's gross incompetence, but at the end of the day, it will still eventually require to purchase a new Apple device, when a downgrade would have been enough. It's not the first time even: https://www.thecooldown.com/green-business/iphone-update-issue-apple-reddit/ https://www.thecooldown.com/green-business/iphone-update-iss... <iPhone user sparks debate after device becomes ruined following mandatory update: 'This is just ridiculous'> It's a long-term issue, because even if it will get fixed in two years, then the battery damages due to severe drain are permanent, and this is to be paid with your pocket, or again... upgrade to a new iPhone. It's not the first cycle like this, slower software is deployed to all iPhones, older iPhones lag, and you have to purchase the fresh new iPhone. == "Apple implemented unfair commercial practices", the Italian competition authority said in a statement (after fining Apple). The companies encouraged users to upgrade operating system software but did not make clear the increased demands that new software would make on smartphones, according to the authority. This "caused serious malfunctions and significantly reduced performance", which provoked users into upgrading their devices, the authority said. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45963943 == This is about the generic software updates. The main issue is that you have no path to downgrade, no way to use your own OS, and your only choice is to hope for an update from Apple that will revert back your device to its normal way of working, or, purchase a new phone, which won't have this issue. It's literally impossible that they have not noticed, so if not planned obsolescence, at least, it is intentional degradation of existing products (or that their team is not able to notice...) It's rather the other proof around that we would like to see, that Apple did not know the impact of what they are doing. If they knew, you know what it means.
  - wavemode 6mo ago
    > They did not lose, they settled a class action suit. I mean... settling means you lost, almost by definition. You were sued and then paid the person who sued you. Settling is the result of almost all lawsuits where the company knows they were at fault - why would you go to trial if you know you're going to lose? Now, don't get me wrong - your overall point could still be correct. Many companies who still do believe themselves to not be at fault, offer a settlement purely for the reason that it's cheaper in terms of legal fees (or perhaps less of a PR nuisance, or just generally lower-risk) than going to trial.
    - dragonwriter 6mo ago
      > I mean... settling means you lost, almost by definition. No, since "settling" is something both sides do, if it were losing, it would be both sides losing. Settling is a decision to compromise to mitigate the cost of litigation (and in the US, which does not have loser pays as the default rule, that can be quite expensive even if you win) as well as the risk of loss. You can’t really characterize it as being more "winning" or "losing" for anyone one party without a much more detailed consideration of the specific terms and the expected costs of litigation, etc.
      - wavemode 6mo ago
        > You can’t really characterize it as being more "winning" or "losing" for anyone one party without a much more detailed consideration of the specific terms and the expected costs of litigation, etc. Yeah... you can. The party suing received $500 million. That's a win. Yes, a settlement has to be agreed on by both sides, but that doesn't mean the party suing didn't win. It just means that, maybe they could have won more. Where you and the parent commenter are correct is that, the result of this case is not the same as a court verdict regarding the legality of Apple's conduct. That part true - if we're talking about "was Apple truly intentionally killing their phones to get you to buy a new one", the outcome of the case says nothing about that. But to make a statement like "they didn't lose, they settled" is just misleading. Almost every company that has ever done something illegal settled, that's not an argument either. This case had at least enough merit to spook Apple into coughing up over half a billion dollars ($500 million to the class action and $100 million to the coalition of state attorneys general who sued Apple for deceptive practices). (Again, not proof of guilt but at least evidence of the claims having some merit.) In the grand scheme of things they definitely lost.
  - Yizahi 6mo ago
    Of course they did. My iPad 2 worked perfectly up until iOS6 and crawled to a screeching halt after upgrading to iOS7. Constant lags, freezes, sometimes even crashes of the same apps which worked fine a week before. And to protect consumers even more, Apple blocks firmware downgrade, despite old version working just fine for years later.
- dmitrygr 6mo ago
  That is a gross misrepresentation of the situation. Old batteries' internal resistance rises and they become unable to deliver high current. If you try, thanks to V=IR, the output voltage will droop and you'll brown out. Limiting CPU speed prevents high current draw and random device resets. The alternative was to let it run fast and have it randomly reset under load even when battery is 50% full. All of this is only relevant cause apple devices are often used for so long after release (5-7 years, this message typed on a 5 year old iPhone) [1] (random source, more available on google.com) while statistically few android devices last long enough in consumer pockets for this to matter (2.5-3 years is average) [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9uha1o/android_vs_ios_phones_in_terms_of_longevity/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9uha1o/android_vs_...
  - Lammy 6mo ago
    Who designed the phone to not have a user-replaceable battery, making CPU speed limiting guaranteed to occur with age?
- kajman 6mo ago
  I like to keep phones a long time. Before I finally slotted in a sketchy new third party battery, my last android would suddenly shut off at anywhere from 15-30℅ battery remaining because of the voltage drop. I think they deserve a pass for that "scandal".
  - rvnx 6mo ago
    https://youtu.be/YfnfhM4O_S8?t=202 https://youtu.be/YfnfhM4O_S8?t=202 45% battery on iOS 18 25% battery on iOS 26 (which corresponds to iOS 19) ... This is 2026 https://www.ladbible.com/technology/iphone-ios-update-26-delay-trick-899532-20260511 https://www.ladbible.com/technology/iphone-ios-update-26-del... (sadly got stuck with that degraded phone because the Apple Watch that refuses to pair if you run iOS 18)
    - panopticon 6mo ago
      The timestamped part of the video shows an iPhone 15 and 17, both on iOS 26.3. 45% on the iPhone 17 and 25% on the iPhone 15. Only the iPhone XR in that test is on iOS 18. It scored behind all of the models on iOS 26.3 except for the iPhone SE. But that's not a useful comparison because who knows what condition the XR's battery is in at this point, and nothing else ran on a comparable iOS version. Not sure what point you were trying to make with that video, but it doesn't really demonstrate cross-version battery performance.
  - meatbundragon 6mo ago
    I've never seen this with Pixels
chocochunks 6mo ago
That's not how long they will provide software support. It's how long you can get a hardware repair. Some "vintage" products will get current software support but not others. Some products have lost software support before even reaching "vintage" like the first Gen iPad.
jeroenhd 6mo ago
That page shows "vintage" products, which is a category they apply after "5 to 7 years". It describes replacement parts and (bought) maintenance service in store locations. They don't state how long they will provide software updates.

throwaway030 6mo ago

My Pixel 3A stopped receiving security updates after less than 3 years. I remember Google did this to start using their own chips in their phones. Two or three years is not even close to the support Apple provides. It sealed the deal for me and I switched to iPhone.

joshuamorton 6mo ago
Yes, they've since more than doubled the support lifetimes to seven years.
- o_m 6mo ago
  It's only been 2.5 years since they said that. I'm sure they will walk back on their word before it has been 7 years.
  - morsch 6mo ago
    The increased update timelines by Google, Samsung and others roughly coincided with EU legislation coming into effect that mandates 5 years of updates after end of sales. We'll see. https://www.heise.de/en/news/From-June-20-EU-gives-smartphones-a-label-and-a-guaranteed-update-time-10359716.html https://www.heise.de/en/news/From-June-20-EU-gives-smartphon...
    - danudey 6mo ago
      Correction: if the manufacturer chooses to provide updates, and they don't have to, they must continue to make those updates available for five years after end of sales. In other words, manufacturers aren't required to publish updates at all, but if they do provide updates they have to make them available to users for five years after they stop sales. This only stops the case where a manufacturer ships a device and publishes updates for the device, but then takes those updates offline after they stop selling the device (but before 5 years is up). https://www.theandroidportal.com/motorola-android-update-loophole-eu/ https://www.theandroidportal.com/motorola-android-update-loo...

Aurornis 6mo ago

> Their hardware is usually fine when it comes to support. Google announces the support lifetime of their devices and sticks to it If they announce a support lifetime they stick to it. For other products they'll just decide they're done with it and give you a little warning period. Maybe some store credit or another bonus depending on the product.

smallmancontrov 6mo ago

> early Pixels only had 2 years of support, as was announced at release They also announced a promotion for unlimited cloud storage of photos and then shrank and JPEG massacred the photos. That part of my photo library is still visibly trashy to this very day. Every time I browse my photos, I am reminded that google did this.

notatoad 6mo ago

"support" meaning drivers and basic security updates, sure. but if you buy this for the gemini integration, what are the odds that google actually sticks with that, or two years from now are you going to have a laptop that lags behind the feature set available in the gemini app for mac because they didn't sell enough of these to bother continuing development?

TheDong 6mo ago
Google also has a better track record than some companies (cough apple) of keeping their devices unlockable/open enough that they can have a second life regardless of whether google keeps up on the software side. You can install linux on the nexus 7 tablets. You can install linux on the old PixelBook or Chromebook Pixel. An iPad bought at the same time as the nexus 7 (the original iPad air) has become a useless insecure brick that can't even load modern websites, let alone support linux. The nexus 7 can have linux or a custom android rom flashed to work fine, albeit with a pretty crappy processor.
jeroenhd 6mo ago
The Gemini app has been backported to at least Android 14 as far as I could tell (that's the oldest OS I saw it on), probably further. Hard to say they're going to keep giving you new features, but buying a device for the future things that may be brought to it is always a massive gamble, like buying a Macbook for their failed promise of Apple Intelligence or a Windows laptop for the promised advantages of Copilot. If the device works well enough to be worth the money, it'll keep working. If you want fancy stuff in the future, hold off on buying new hardware and wait until the stuff you want is actually available.

nullocator 6mo ago

What about Nest? It's great that they announced a lifetime and stuck with it I guess? Sucks for anyone who bought into the ecosystem. You'd have to pay me to try and adopt more google products at this point, otherwise it's almost certainly sooner or later going to be deemed a waste of money/time.

ahmadyan 6mo ago

yeah, even on product lines that they kill (like Stadia) they usually do right by the user (eg they refunded everyone, both on hardware and software people bought on the platform).

simonjgreen 6mo ago

Hmmmmmmmm Nest Secure Google Home Stadia Daydream Glass Nexus Pixel Slate Pixelbook Chromecast Audio OnHub Jamboard

cwillu 6mo ago
The list of departed google products could be put to the music of the names of the countries of the world.
rv3392 6mo ago
I think there's a difference between cancelled (or renamed in the case of Google Home and Nexus) product lines and something no longer working. Most of that list falls into the former, but otherwise probably work fine. This Googlebook will probably be a lot like the Pixelbook. Probably cancelled after 1 generation, but still usable for 5-10 years as you'd expect from a laptop.
adi_kurian 6mo ago
My chromecast audio still works great.
adi_kurian 6mo ago
My chromecast audio still works great. No idea about the rest, but that I do know.
kissickas 6mo ago
They refunded me all the money I spent on the Stadia + games and unlocked the video game controllers so I can use them with other systems... my only regret is that I didn't buy more
- haritha-j 6mo ago
  I know right? And I ended up getting a chromecast free through that refund as well.
jeroenhd 6mo ago
I don't have most of those, but from the entire list I only recognise Stadia as something that stopped working entirely, and I got my full purchase price back for that. Chromecast still works great.

mattmaroon 6mo ago

Apple might not specify a time upfront but they do consistently support hardware for a good length of time. IPhones generally get OS updates for 5-6 years and security for at least a couple more. I’ve never used anything they made long enough to get there.

sbochins 6mo ago

My nest thermostat disagrees with your optimism.

entropie 6mo ago

> Their hardware is usually fine when it comes to support. Pixel stands were horrible. And discontinued.

yolovoe 6mo ago

My experience with Google hardware has been the opposite. Three early Pixel phones died within a year or two, and pretty abysmal experience with Pixel Buds. They'd send me replacements, but I tired of them breaking. I switched to an iPhone after being a long-time Android fan. Haven't looked back. Converted my wife to an iPhone too. Apple is better at hardware. iPhones also receive security updates for a long time. I buy iPhone 3+ generation old brand new at the Apple store, and it... works really well.