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Watch it if you haven't already. I accidentally landed in the middle of it while doing some illicit late night channel surfing when I was a kid.. this left qui

Watch it if you haven't already. I accidentally landed in the middle of it while doing some illicit late night channel surfing when I was a kid.. this left quite an impression. I think it was a healthy formative influence for me and primed me for rejecting fads / peer pressure, distrusting authority, etc. Probably also helped me to resist the more unhealthy aspects of a religious time/place, and I was even doing light reading on Cartesian skepticism a few years later, which got me into math. Didn't figure out the name of the movie until years later when it was a big meme. This is not advice but I definitely advise you to show your small children this movie before they are old enough to think it's corny. They may have a schizophrenic episode or descend into solipsism sure, but they may also get scared as hell by monsters and learn some mental judo, and thank you for it later.

shrubby 5mo ago
Nice pitch. I'll stream it right away! I've been watching Andor as a instructional manual recently and this seems like a good addition to the reality based manuals out there. Idiocracy, War INC etc.
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riffraff 5mo ago
My dad pitched this movie to me when I was a kid, as he was a Carpenter fan. Beyond the somewhat "obvious" message (for a grown up) it's just an eminently entertaining movie.
HerbManic 5mo ago
What I find funny (only not really) is the wildly different interpretations of this film people have, for many they seem to be primed by other things to see in it what they want. Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is what Carpenter was going for. Alas, once your works are in the wild it is out of the creators control in how they end up being used.
- robot-wrangler 5mo ago
  It's interesting right? Now there's too much distrust of authority and also not enough. Even the word "skeptic" is sometimes used to refer to people who "do their own research" and doggedly latch on to wild conspiracy theories. Avoiding groupthink is another slightly different positive spin on (my read of) the underlying message. There's such a thing as toxic individualism too, but if there's a "bad" way to be a free-thinker then you could say it usually has a pretty limited blast radius for society in general and it isn't a contagious kind of madness either
  - qsera 5mo ago
    >wild conspiracy theories. Do you know the difference between a conspiracy "nut", and a rational person? For a "conspiracy nut", understanding that there is sufficient incentive (also implies a lack of deterrent) for X to do Y is proof enough that X is doing Y. For a "mainstream" person, that is not enough. They require real, solid proof to consider that X is doing Y. Note that this is about deciding their own behavior, and not about handing capital punishment for X. I ll let you decide who is smarter...
    - robot-wrangler 5mo ago
      Not sure you can purely talk about "is the motivation likely?" and end up with qanon stuff. This leaves out motivated reasoning coming from the rube, plus a bunch of other things like narratives that are sufficiently fun / scandalous /surprising
    - secretsatan 5mo ago
      Looking at conspiracy nuts joining ice and gleefully celebrating unidentified armed goons abducting people, i think they more likely think, well, i would do y, so they must be doing it against me.
    - M95D 5mo ago
      A "mainstream" person can also consider past evidence of A, B and C doing Y and assume that X is doing Y too without any evidence about Y.
Joel_Mckay 5mo ago
"They live" was a cult classic, and great fun if you were a Roddy Piper fan. Other entertaining films =3 "The Great Dictator" (Charlie Chaplin, 1940) https://archive.org/details/the-great-dictator-disc-01-title-2 https://archive.org/details/the-great-dictator-disc-01-title... "Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951) https://archive.org/details/day-the-earth-stood-still-1951 https://archive.org/details/day-the-earth-stood-still-1951 "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" (1956) https://archive.org/details/invasionofthebodysnatchers1956_201911/ https://archive.org/details/invasionofthebodysnatchers1956_2... "The Man in the White Suit" (1951) https://archive.org/details/the-man-in-the-white-suit_202105 https://archive.org/details/the-man-in-the-white-suit_202105 "The Twilight Zone" (1959) https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00-original-pilot/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S01E12+What+You+Need.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00... https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00-original-pilot/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S01E25+People+Are+Alike+All+Over.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00... https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15-a-quality-of-mercy/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S03E24+To+Serve+Man.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15... https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15-a-quality-of-mercy/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S03E28+The+Little+People.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15...
flomo 5mo ago
spoiler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8Z7y_QcwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8Z7y_QcwE
- geek_at 5mo ago
  Seems not to be available in europe "The uploader has not made this video available in your country"
  - throw0101c 5mo ago
    Another channel that is not the studio: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhr3TzEknzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhr3TzEknzY
keybored 5mo ago
What do they say about those who see through ideology.

shrubby 5mo ago

Nice pitch. I'll stream it right away! I've been watching Andor as a instructional manual recently and this seems like a good addition to the reality based manuals out there. Idiocracy, War INC etc.

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riffraff 5mo ago

My dad pitched this movie to me when I was a kid, as he was a Carpenter fan. Beyond the somewhat "obvious" message (for a grown up) it's just an eminently entertaining movie.

HerbManic 5mo ago

What I find funny (only not really) is the wildly different interpretations of this film people have, for many they seem to be primed by other things to see in it what they want. Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is what Carpenter was going for. Alas, once your works are in the wild it is out of the creators control in how they end up being used.

robot-wrangler 5mo ago
It's interesting right? Now there's too much distrust of authority and also not enough. Even the word "skeptic" is sometimes used to refer to people who "do their own research" and doggedly latch on to wild conspiracy theories. Avoiding groupthink is another slightly different positive spin on (my read of) the underlying message. There's such a thing as toxic individualism too, but if there's a "bad" way to be a free-thinker then you could say it usually has a pretty limited blast radius for society in general and it isn't a contagious kind of madness either
- qsera 5mo ago
  >wild conspiracy theories. Do you know the difference between a conspiracy "nut", and a rational person? For a "conspiracy nut", understanding that there is sufficient incentive (also implies a lack of deterrent) for X to do Y is proof enough that X is doing Y. For a "mainstream" person, that is not enough. They require real, solid proof to consider that X is doing Y. Note that this is about deciding their own behavior, and not about handing capital punishment for X. I ll let you decide who is smarter...
  - robot-wrangler 5mo ago
    Not sure you can purely talk about "is the motivation likely?" and end up with qanon stuff. This leaves out motivated reasoning coming from the rube, plus a bunch of other things like narratives that are sufficiently fun / scandalous /surprising
  - secretsatan 5mo ago
    Looking at conspiracy nuts joining ice and gleefully celebrating unidentified armed goons abducting people, i think they more likely think, well, i would do y, so they must be doing it against me.
  - M95D 5mo ago
    A "mainstream" person can also consider past evidence of A, B and C doing Y and assume that X is doing Y too without any evidence about Y.

Joel_Mckay 5mo ago

"They live" was a cult classic, and great fun if you were a Roddy Piper fan. Other entertaining films =3 "The Great Dictator" (Charlie Chaplin, 1940) https://archive.org/details/the-great-dictator-disc-01-title-2 https://archive.org/details/the-great-dictator-disc-01-title... "Day the Earth Stood Still" (1951) https://archive.org/details/day-the-earth-stood-still-1951 https://archive.org/details/day-the-earth-stood-still-1951 "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers" (1956) https://archive.org/details/invasionofthebodysnatchers1956_201911/ https://archive.org/details/invasionofthebodysnatchers1956_2... "The Man in the White Suit" (1951) https://archive.org/details/the-man-in-the-white-suit_202105 https://archive.org/details/the-man-in-the-white-suit_202105 "The Twilight Zone" (1959) https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00-original-pilot/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S01E12+What+You+Need.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00... https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00-original-pilot/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S01E25+People+Are+Alike+All+Over.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-01-e-00... https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15-a-quality-of-mercy/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S03E24+To+Serve+Man.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15... https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15-a-quality-of-mercy/The+Twilight+Zone+1959+S03E28+The+Little+People.mp4 https://archive.org/details/the-twilight-zone-1959-s-03-e-15...

flomo 5mo ago

spoiler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8Z7y_QcwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8Z7y_QcwE

geek_at 5mo ago
Seems not to be available in europe "The uploader has not made this video available in your country"
- throw0101c 5mo ago
  Another channel that is not the studio: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhr3TzEknzY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhr3TzEknzY

keybored 5mo ago

What do they say about those who see through ideology.