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Oracle should buy HP and rename itself HP

6 points by prashanthr 14y ago

after HP completes autonomy cleanup, Oracle/SAP should pick it up. I think it makes more sense for Oracle, from a branding standpoint. (disclaimer: I was at Oracle doing M&A. these views are entirely mine and not representative of my past employers or knowledge. I do not directly own HP, ORCL or SAP stocks. I may own one or more of HP, ORCL, SAP through mutual funds in my retirement account)

googoobaby 14y ago
In order to preserve the memory of Bill and Dave, the HP name should be replaced by something more representative, like cheesebag.ly
grumps 14y ago
Uhh pretty sure owning it through your retirement plan is still illegal. Last a checked even blinded managed trading is not allowed. Of course this could be dependent on your firm. Not sure I completely understand why Oracle would want to be in the Hardware business, then again Google joined it via Motorola.
- e1ven 14y ago
  Isn't Oracle already in the Hardware business, via the Sun purchase? http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers/overview/index.html http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers/overview/index.htm...
  - grumps 14y ago
    forgot about that...
- prashanthr 14y ago
  i think Dave - see http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/would-oracle-actually-buy-hp/146098 http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/would-oracle-actually-buy-... - and Eric - see http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/03/20/could-hp-reorg-spur-oracle-to-make-historic-takeover-bid/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/03/20/could-hp-r... - have contemplated on the viability of such a deal. I wanted to get your thoughts on Oracle, after the potential acquisition, changing its name to HP.
  - grumps 14y ago
    Just regarding the re-naming, not sure if that will happen. From what I hear Ellison is a serious ego maniac. I would doubt that he'd think to change his companies name. Then again I'm not even close to a branding expert.
- prashanthr 14y ago
  and one more thing to look at, revenue by lines of business http://www.trefis.com/company?hm=HPQ.trefis# http://www.trefis.com/company?hm=HPQ.trefis#
  - grumps 14y ago
    interesting, I wouldn't have expected that much from services.
alexholehouse 14y ago
Could you explain your logic?
- prashanthr 14y ago
  do you think HP is a better brand than Oracle?
  - alexholehouse 14y ago
    After the last two years, possibly (probably?) not - but surely that brand value is incredibly contextually relevant anyway. For consumer electronics, I probably wouldn't buy Oracle's tablet the Elisson-3000, but if I were building a server farm I'd be more inclined to go with Oracle over HP given the apparent management issues, the current Autonomy debacle, and their flip-flopping in the consumer PC space. Irrespective of that, presumably an acquisition decision has more to it than , "HP is a better brand so we should buy HP" (this is not rhetorical)? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, especially given your background, I'm just genuinely interested as to your reasons.
- prashanthr 14y ago
  do you think HP is a better brand than Oracle?

6 points by prashanthr 14y ago

googoobaby 14y ago

In order to preserve the memory of Bill and Dave, the HP name should be replaced by something more representative, like cheesebag.ly

grumps 14y ago

Uhh pretty sure owning it through your retirement plan is still illegal. Last a checked even blinded managed trading is not allowed. Of course this could be dependent on your firm. Not sure I completely understand why Oracle would want to be in the Hardware business, then again Google joined it via Motorola.

e1ven 14y ago
Isn't Oracle already in the Hardware business, via the Sun purchase? http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers/overview/index.html http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers/overview/index.htm...
- grumps 14y ago
  forgot about that...
prashanthr 14y ago
i think Dave - see http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/would-oracle-actually-buy-hp/146098 http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/would-oracle-actually-buy-... - and Eric - see http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/03/20/could-hp-reorg-spur-oracle-to-make-historic-takeover-bid/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/03/20/could-hp-r... - have contemplated on the viability of such a deal. I wanted to get your thoughts on Oracle, after the potential acquisition, changing its name to HP.
- grumps 14y ago
  Just regarding the re-naming, not sure if that will happen. From what I hear Ellison is a serious ego maniac. I would doubt that he'd think to change his companies name. Then again I'm not even close to a branding expert.
prashanthr 14y ago
and one more thing to look at, revenue by lines of business http://www.trefis.com/company?hm=HPQ.trefis# http://www.trefis.com/company?hm=HPQ.trefis#
- grumps 14y ago
  interesting, I wouldn't have expected that much from services.

alexholehouse 14y ago

Could you explain your logic?

prashanthr 14y ago
do you think HP is a better brand than Oracle?
- alexholehouse 14y ago
  After the last two years, possibly (probably?) not - but surely that brand value is incredibly contextually relevant anyway. For consumer electronics, I probably wouldn't buy Oracle's tablet the Elisson-3000, but if I were building a server farm I'd be more inclined to go with Oracle over HP given the apparent management issues, the current Autonomy debacle, and their flip-flopping in the consumer PC space. Irrespective of that, presumably an acquisition decision has more to it than , "HP is a better brand so we should buy HP" (this is not rhetorical)? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, especially given your background, I'm just genuinely interested as to your reasons.
prashanthr 14y ago
do you think HP is a better brand than Oracle?