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Energy Prices Are Driving Demand for Solar Panels and Heat Pumps

35 points by lxm 5mo ago

ChrisArchitect 5mo ago
Some discussions: Heat pump sales rise across Europe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48012003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48012003 Iran war sparks renewables boom as Europeans rush to buy solar, heat pumps, EVs https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47601310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47601310
Ati985 5mo ago
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- belviewreview 5mo ago
  Recover 98.04% of waste heat energy? That may follow the 1st Law of Thermodynamics, but it definitely violates the 2nd.
- bastawhiz 5mo ago
  Julius Robert von Mayer has entered the chat
- seventytwo 5mo ago
  Seems legit
- anon7000 5mo ago
  You look like an AI bot. Someone should report you
belviewreview 5mo ago
Remember how fossil fuel promoters always say its big advantage over solar and wind energy is reliability?
adjejmxbdjdn 5mo ago
Electrification is a no brainer. Electricity is essentially an abstraction layer that decouples the source of energy from the consumer. Even if you want to remain 100% fossil fuel dependent, it still makes a lot more sense, outside of some industrial uses, to generate electricity with those fossil fuels and then use the electricity to power your actual device, whether it’s your air conditioning unit or your automobile, than to ship liquid gas to hundreds of thousands of gas stations all over or build pipes to send gaseous natural gas to every house. Not only is it more efficient, as any abstracted system, it allows far more flexibility and resilience due to that flexibility.
- anon7000 5mo ago
  100%. Also, fossil fuel is a bit ridiculous compared to renewables because you have to spend a huge amount of effort to find a new resource patch, extract the fuel, ship it all over the planet… just to burn it and it’s gone forever. Not a sustainable system for our energy at all.
- stockresearcher 5mo ago
  > Electricity is essentially an abstraction layer that decouples the source of energy from the consumer. Highly recommend a visit to Greenfield Village in Dearborn, MI. They have a belt-driven workshop that demonstrates that this abstraction/desire has existed for a very long time. Electricity is currently our best-known way to put it into practice. PS - depending on their schedule of interactive demos, you might even be able to make something in the workshop :)
  - dnemmers 5mo ago
    Running an entire workshop from a shared overhead pulley seems very akin to running individual thin-clients off a mainframe.
dzhiurgis 5mo ago
Interesting timing that China is ending solar panel and battery export subsidies this year. Panel I've bought 15 months ago is 20% more expensive now.
- hdgvhicv 5mo ago
  Isn’t a lot of that due to currnecy and inflation? 12 months ago 4300 yuan would cost 1000 NZD. 4400 yuan today (3% increase) would be about 1100 NZD.
- chabes 5mo ago
  Federal tax incentives in the US are also drying up and not being renewed. Unfortunately, the same thing is happening with state incentives in California. Many of these programs ended in the beginning of this year.
  - pstuart 5mo ago
    No worries! We just install our own oil wells and refineries for energy independence to take advantage of those sweet federal subsidies that have shifted back to fossil fuels.
niij 5mo ago
https://archive.is/zCa4t https://archive.is/zCa4t

35 points by lxm 5mo ago

Some discussions: Heat pump sales rise across Europe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48012003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48012003 Iran war sparks renewables boom as Europeans rush to buy solar, heat pumps, EVs https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47601310 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47601310

Ati985 5mo ago

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belviewreview 5mo ago
Recover 98.04% of waste heat energy? That may follow the 1st Law of Thermodynamics, but it definitely violates the 2nd.
bastawhiz 5mo ago
Julius Robert von Mayer has entered the chat
seventytwo 5mo ago
Seems legit
anon7000 5mo ago
You look like an AI bot. Someone should report you

belviewreview 5mo ago

Remember how fossil fuel promoters always say its big advantage over solar and wind energy is reliability?

adjejmxbdjdn 5mo ago

Electrification is a no brainer. Electricity is essentially an abstraction layer that decouples the source of energy from the consumer. Even if you want to remain 100% fossil fuel dependent, it still makes a lot more sense, outside of some industrial uses, to generate electricity with those fossil fuels and then use the electricity to power your actual device, whether it’s your air conditioning unit or your automobile, than to ship liquid gas to hundreds of thousands of gas stations all over or build pipes to send gaseous natural gas to every house. Not only is it more efficient, as any abstracted system, it allows far more flexibility and resilience due to that flexibility.

anon7000 5mo ago
100%. Also, fossil fuel is a bit ridiculous compared to renewables because you have to spend a huge amount of effort to find a new resource patch, extract the fuel, ship it all over the planet… just to burn it and it’s gone forever. Not a sustainable system for our energy at all.
stockresearcher 5mo ago
> Electricity is essentially an abstraction layer that decouples the source of energy from the consumer. Highly recommend a visit to Greenfield Village in Dearborn, MI. They have a belt-driven workshop that demonstrates that this abstraction/desire has existed for a very long time. Electricity is currently our best-known way to put it into practice. PS - depending on their schedule of interactive demos, you might even be able to make something in the workshop :)
- dnemmers 5mo ago
  Running an entire workshop from a shared overhead pulley seems very akin to running individual thin-clients off a mainframe.

dzhiurgis 5mo ago

Interesting timing that China is ending solar panel and battery export subsidies this year. Panel I've bought 15 months ago is 20% more expensive now.

hdgvhicv 5mo ago
Isn’t a lot of that due to currnecy and inflation? 12 months ago 4300 yuan would cost 1000 NZD. 4400 yuan today (3% increase) would be about 1100 NZD.
chabes 5mo ago
Federal tax incentives in the US are also drying up and not being renewed. Unfortunately, the same thing is happening with state incentives in California. Many of these programs ended in the beginning of this year.
- pstuart 5mo ago
  No worries! We just install our own oil wells and refineries for energy independence to take advantage of those sweet federal subsidies that have shifted back to fossil fuels.

niij 5mo ago

https://archive.is/zCa4t https://archive.is/zCa4t