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Climate also doesn't change in macro over a lifetime. It's very real, but the notion that it's changing over a 5 year period is nonsense. things aren't "shutt
by john_alan 5mo ago
Climate also doesn't change in macro over a lifetime.
It's very real, but the notion that it's changing over a 5 year period is nonsense.
things aren't "shutting off".
- hiddencost 5mo agoWishful thinking... I wonder how people like you end up so hostile to experts.
- john_alan 5mo ago[flagged]
- xfce4 5mo agoso loud and wrong
- azan_ 5mo agoWell, typically people who make claims like yours are actual NPCs, just with opposite view. I'm sure you did not actually study models and find flaws with them but just vibe with people who say there's no climate change more. To deny there is climate change, you've got to actually deny what you can observe with your bare eyes and instead value more what you've read from climate change deniers, which is the most NPC thing you can do.
- jaapz 5mo agoClimate has changed over a lifetime though.
- john_alan 5mo ago[flagged]
- TimorousBestie 5mo agoIt’s rude to demand a citation when you’ve pre-committed to disbelieving it.
- john_alan 5mo ago[dead]
- Centigonal 5mo agohttps://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...
- energy123 5mo agoAverage temperatures keep going up. That's not binary/state-transition change but it's measurable.
- adrian_b 5mo agoSee my other comment above. No citation is needed when you see the changes with your own eyes, which happened at least in Europe, where I live.
- haunter 5mo agoAre you a vault dweller?
- rolph 5mo agothis is not unsupported anecdote
- fzeroracer 5mo agoSeattle now has summers, for one.
- adrian_b 5mo agoI am old enough to have witnessed how the climate has completely changed in Europe, where I live. In the same place where I live now, when I was young there was permanent snow cover for 3 to 4 months. During the last 10 years, there have been years with no snow and in the others a little snow has been present for 3 or 4 days of a year, when it melted the second day after falling. I have not used again my winter boots and my winter jackets for the last 15 years or more. This is really a huge change during less than a human lifetime.
- grey-area 5mo agoBetter keep those winter clothes in case the current shuts down.
- john_alan 5mo agoWhat you've said is emotionally compelling, but scientifically very weak. Personal recollection is selective and location-specific. You’ve described a memory, not established a mechanism. What you perceive as change isn't macro, it's micro. It doesn't mean macro change isn't happening, but it's not happening on our timescale. I'm 50 FWIW.
- koolala 5mo agoWhat are you considering 'macro' climate change to be then? The mechanism they described was warming climate.
- nickserv 5mo ago> it's not happening on our timescale. Talk to anyone over 30 and they'll tell you the climate has already changed. Well anyone that doesn't have a political agenda or shares in ExxonMobil.
- _fizz_buzz_ 5mo agoEven ExxonMobil scientists came to the conclusion. They made an internal study in the 70s and it was actually incredibly solid: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0063 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0063
- wongarsu 5mo agoLooking back at the amount of snowfall I saw as a kid and the amount of snowfall I see now in my 30s, or at the number of hot summer days ... I find it hard to claim that climate is not changing over a lifetime. 20 years isn't even a lifetime, that's like 1/4th of a lifetime Maybe climate is more stable wherever you live
- SoftTalker 5mo agoThere's a problem with memories. You can have a snowy week and remember it as the entire winter, if it affected you in particularly memorable ways. Kids usually get out of school and play building snowmen and having snowball fights. When I was a kid in the midwest USA, 100 degrees in the summer happened every once in a while. Still does. July and August were always hot. Still are. As a kid the heat didn't bother me so much, I'd go out and play in the sprinkler or go to the pool. Now, I've got to wear clothes and work. Makes the heat more noticable.
- array_key_first 5mo agoBut we have undeniable evidence that the number of record highs to record lows has been increasing dramatically over the past few decades. It's just measurement, there's no magic behind it. Summers are actually hotter and winters are actually warmer on average, that's real.
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- Izkata 5mo agoLikewise in the winter, as a kid in the 90s I remember my dad wondering if we'd have a white Christmas (wondering if snow would fall before Christmas or not). There's even songs from decades earlier about it. Whether we'd get snow before January has always been a toss-up, and I'd hazard we've gotten it more often recently than when I was a kid. Like about 10 years ago I even remember a huge blizzard in November.
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- water-data-dude 5mo agoI refer you to: https://xkcd.com/1732/ https://xkcd.com/1732/
- Descon 5mo agoHuh? Sudden events are a very real part of larger processes like evolution and climate change. A volcano eruption, a meteor impact, or a drought year, or the ceasing of a current can absolutely have massive implications on larger systems.