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Show HN: An index of indie web/blog indexes

154 points by rocketpastsix 5mo ago

I saw a comment here about how there are so many indexes of indie sites, blogs, etc but there wasn't an index of all the indexes. So I built it. It doesn't require a log in, just go browse! I've curated about 30 or so, but there is a submission form if there are ones I am missing. Also happy to take UI improvements because I am not great in that area!

snisarenko 5mo ago
As the internet gets filled with AI slop, these kind of indexes of real human thought are going to become more important.
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  Agreed, hopefully someone finds a fun index that they like and it leads them to a new blog or site
- mmooss 5mo ago
  The Internet was mostly slop before LLMs. While LLM automation can increase it by orders of magnitude, we've long needed curated indexes.
rambambram 5mo ago
Don't know where your colors and style come from, but imo you're doing fine on that front. Nice project also! Bookmarked. In the same vein; I stumbled upon Wander (pun intended) by browsing a HN post from yesterday. I really like that take on discovery of smaller curated websites. https://codeberg.org/susam/wander#readme https://codeberg.org/susam/wander#readme
- tasuki 5mo ago
  > colors I'm always amazed when people go through the trouble of adding a light/dark theme switcher rather than just respecting the user's system preference with `prefers-color-scheme`[0]. [0]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/At-rules/@media/prefers-color-scheme https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/A...
  - wonger_ 5mo ago
    You can do both, because some people like having per-site color controls. Like I prefer to read prose and literary website content in light mode while keeping my OS in dark mode. Admittedly it's a niche use case.
  - zahlman 5mo ago
    You can do both. And then you help out people who don't know that they have a meaningful system preference (or maybe all the other sites they visit don't honour it, or maybe their web browser isn't picking it up for some reason).
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  Hey thank you! That’s awesome, I’ll take a look at Wander this afternoon
- efilife 5mo ago
  they are from Claude
paustint 5mo ago
refined.blog doesn't work, goes to a GoDaddy page.
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  Thanks for the heads up! I’ll check it out when I’m back from running errands
hizihic 5mo ago
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freetonik 5mo ago
Nice project! Thanks for including Minifeed!
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  you're welcome!
deferredgrant 5mo ago
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Imustaskforhelp 5mo ago
Wait, is this perhaps my comment/disussion? "Are there any indexes which index all of these too?" - (comment written by me at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069558 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069558) I am not exactly sure if it was my comment itself which helped in it but no matter what, this is exactly what I was talking about and I am so glad that you made it! Really awesome work! Definitely gonna add my blog site into a few of these and just gonna scroll it, ah this feels so good, i really appreciate your effort and I hope more people share even more indexes and it becomes an even more complete index of all indexes and we preserve the spirit of the open internet! This feels really good to me! :-)
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  The one above yours was what set me off on the path but yours helps reinforce it!
  - Imustaskforhelp 5mo ago
    Ah great, well I am happy that it was within the same discussion and I am happy that I could help reinforce a positive change on the internet and so thanks for making this website because this is exactly what I wanted/wished when I had written that comment :-D I am right now thinking of connecting all these indexes within the list as much as I can into rss files and going to hopefully tinker around with some rss with all these indexes listed within your website and this has certainly brought me a bit of hope regarding the open internet if enough people use such indexes or index of indexes :-D Edit: The rss section within your website has been really helpful in finding websites which are doing what I am talking about and so many other things, its been so good delving in these things and I find it really nice :-)
marginalia_nu 5mo ago
Why does Kagi's Smallweb have a 'no submissions' label? I was under the impression you just PR:ed here: https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  Ah I missed that, thanks! I’ve updated it
BorisMelnik 5mo ago
this is great. Google has a vendetta against small personal blogs and is one of the original reasons why I fell in love with Google was because I got to discover all these indie publishers. as much as I love sub stack and Reddit these platforms along with all the garbage and slop is pushing us down. I'm hoping one day the entire internet forks
yuppiepuppie 5mo ago
Any chance you can put https://hnarcade.com https://hnarcade.com on there?
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  I saw it in the submissions - seems like it fits.
proton_9 5mo ago
I’ve made a submission. I think as time passes there will be a niche for curated content thats free from AI slop.
quacky_batak 5mo ago
This is an amazing project, alternative domain “the-indiex”
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  ha now I wish I had thought of that.
cemsakarya 5mo ago
I love this so much. I believe there is a sea of valuable blogs being buried in google search indexing weird SEO rules, and whatever crawling the AI systems are doing. We need to preserve the actual human generated content that predates AI. Wishing you huge success, thank you!
yesitcan 5mo ago
Now we just need theindexindex (an index of indices of indie web/blog indexes). It would just have one link to this site.
- 8organicbits 5mo ago
  Good idea, I added a list to the indieweb wiki: https://indieweb.org/indieweb_directory#Directories_of_directories https://indieweb.org/indieweb_directory#Directories_of_direc... I've added three :)
  - wonger_ 5mo ago
    Maybe a fourth? https://shellsharks.com/indieweb#:~:text=Webrings https://shellsharks.com/indieweb#:~:text=Webrings
- FergusArgyll 5mo ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists
ares623 5mo ago
This is a tangent, but what I'd really like to see is for a "movement" of sorts where site owners explicitly only allow Kagi* as the only crawler for their site. A way of saying "you know what, I've seen what Google has wrought, but they had some good ideas and utility at the start so I'd like Kagi to still crawl my site but no one else". I don't know if that's even technically possible. * I say Kagi here since they're the most prominent one I know of that are thinking about this problem. I am aware that that they too can change in the future.
- jolmg 5mo ago
  I don't understand why you'd want to advocate for creating a new monopoly. Having a rich, diverse market of competing search engines would be the ideal.
  - ares623 5mo ago
    That's part of my point. We already tried a rich, diverse market of competing search engines and it still ended up in a monopoly. In fact I would argue it was inevitable. At least this way the site owners get to choose their monopoly master. So in a way it's democratized. If Google can be blocked successfully (big IF), then Kagi can as well if they change their tune.
- zahlman 5mo ago
  "Allow"? What are they doing to do about it?
8organicbits 5mo ago
I maintain a similar index-of-indexes but it's intentionally non-curated, restricted to indexes that use the OPML format, and uses autodiscovery to expand the list. The site needs some work, but it's up to 356 indexes. https://blogroll-network.alexsci.com/blogrolls/ https://blogroll-network.alexsci.com/blogrolls/ I'd recommend looking at anything with "planet" in the name, there are a bunch of tech communities that manage community feeds and they are high quality. There are also a ton of personal blogroll recommendations via micro.blog too.
- 8organicbits 5mo ago
  Another index-of-indexes is https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm, which tracks 648 webrings! And https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm, which has some other great indieweb indexes
  - culi 5mo ago
    Now we need an index of indexes of indexes. I too keep such a list but it's just an Obsidian note I manually update https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48089823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48089823 I also have a separate list of my favorite parts of the internet I plan to eventually turn into something like this: https://wilderness.land/ https://wilderness.land/ (my inspo)
culi 5mo ago
Shocked at the exclusion of gossips web! I have a very similar list: - indieblog.page, gossipsweb.net, html.energy, yesterweb.org, xn--sr8hvo.ws, personalsit.es, readsomethinginteresting.com, ooh.directory - indieweb.org, handmade.network - 1mb.club, 512kb.club, 250kb.club, 10kbclub.com, 1kb.club - no-js.club, js1k.com, js1024.fun - nocss.club - uses.tech, nownownow.com, aprilcools.club - whimsical.club, brutalistwebsites.com, spaghetti.directory - neocities.org Not sure if these are all still online since it's an old list
- rocketpastsix 5mo ago
  definitely have a bunch of these but I know a few are missing! Feel free to submit them :)
RyanJohn 5mo ago
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yamanakatakeshi 5mo ago
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bitvvip 5mo ago
I visited it and it looks quite simple in style

154 points by rocketpastsix 5mo ago

snisarenko 5mo ago

As the internet gets filled with AI slop, these kind of indexes of real human thought are going to become more important.

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
Agreed, hopefully someone finds a fun index that they like and it leads them to a new blog or site
mmooss 5mo ago
The Internet was mostly slop before LLMs. While LLM automation can increase it by orders of magnitude, we've long needed curated indexes.

rambambram 5mo ago

Don't know where your colors and style come from, but imo you're doing fine on that front. Nice project also! Bookmarked. In the same vein; I stumbled upon Wander (pun intended) by browsing a HN post from yesterday. I really like that take on discovery of smaller curated websites. https://codeberg.org/susam/wander#readme https://codeberg.org/susam/wander#readme

tasuki 5mo ago
> colors I'm always amazed when people go through the trouble of adding a light/dark theme switcher rather than just respecting the user's system preference with `prefers-color-scheme`[0]. [0]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/At-rules/@media/prefers-color-scheme https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/A...
- wonger_ 5mo ago
  You can do both, because some people like having per-site color controls. Like I prefer to read prose and literary website content in light mode while keeping my OS in dark mode. Admittedly it's a niche use case.
- zahlman 5mo ago
  You can do both. And then you help out people who don't know that they have a meaningful system preference (or maybe all the other sites they visit don't honour it, or maybe their web browser isn't picking it up for some reason).
rocketpastsix 5mo ago
Hey thank you! That’s awesome, I’ll take a look at Wander this afternoon
efilife 5mo ago
they are from Claude

paustint 5mo ago

refined.blog doesn't work, goes to a GoDaddy page.

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
Thanks for the heads up! I’ll check it out when I’m back from running errands

hizihic 5mo ago

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freetonik 5mo ago

Nice project! Thanks for including Minifeed!

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
you're welcome!

deferredgrant 5mo ago

[flagged]

Imustaskforhelp 5mo ago

Wait, is this perhaps my comment/disussion? "Are there any indexes which index all of these too?" - (comment written by me at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069558 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48069558) I am not exactly sure if it was my comment itself which helped in it but no matter what, this is exactly what I was talking about and I am so glad that you made it! Really awesome work! Definitely gonna add my blog site into a few of these and just gonna scroll it, ah this feels so good, i really appreciate your effort and I hope more people share even more indexes and it becomes an even more complete index of all indexes and we preserve the spirit of the open internet! This feels really good to me! :-)

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
The one above yours was what set me off on the path but yours helps reinforce it!
- Imustaskforhelp 5mo ago
  Ah great, well I am happy that it was within the same discussion and I am happy that I could help reinforce a positive change on the internet and so thanks for making this website because this is exactly what I wanted/wished when I had written that comment :-D I am right now thinking of connecting all these indexes within the list as much as I can into rss files and going to hopefully tinker around with some rss with all these indexes listed within your website and this has certainly brought me a bit of hope regarding the open internet if enough people use such indexes or index of indexes :-D Edit: The rss section within your website has been really helpful in finding websites which are doing what I am talking about and so many other things, its been so good delving in these things and I find it really nice :-)

marginalia_nu 5mo ago

Why does Kagi's Smallweb have a 'no submissions' label? I was under the impression you just PR:ed here: https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb https://github.com/kagisearch/smallweb

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
Ah I missed that, thanks! I’ve updated it

BorisMelnik 5mo ago

this is great. Google has a vendetta against small personal blogs and is one of the original reasons why I fell in love with Google was because I got to discover all these indie publishers. as much as I love sub stack and Reddit these platforms along with all the garbage and slop is pushing us down. I'm hoping one day the entire internet forks

yuppiepuppie 5mo ago

Any chance you can put https://hnarcade.com https://hnarcade.com on there?

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
I saw it in the submissions - seems like it fits.

proton_9 5mo ago

I’ve made a submission. I think as time passes there will be a niche for curated content thats free from AI slop.

quacky_batak 5mo ago

This is an amazing project, alternative domain “the-indiex”

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
ha now I wish I had thought of that.

cemsakarya 5mo ago

I love this so much. I believe there is a sea of valuable blogs being buried in google search indexing weird SEO rules, and whatever crawling the AI systems are doing. We need to preserve the actual human generated content that predates AI. Wishing you huge success, thank you!

yesitcan 5mo ago

Now we just need theindexindex (an index of indices of indie web/blog indexes). It would just have one link to this site.

8organicbits 5mo ago
Good idea, I added a list to the indieweb wiki: https://indieweb.org/indieweb_directory#Directories_of_directories https://indieweb.org/indieweb_directory#Directories_of_direc... I've added three :)
- wonger_ 5mo ago
  Maybe a fourth? https://shellsharks.com/indieweb#:~:text=Webrings https://shellsharks.com/indieweb#:~:text=Webrings
FergusArgyll 5mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists

ares623 5mo ago

This is a tangent, but what I'd really like to see is for a "movement" of sorts where site owners explicitly only allow Kagi* as the only crawler for their site. A way of saying "you know what, I've seen what Google has wrought, but they had some good ideas and utility at the start so I'd like Kagi to still crawl my site but no one else". I don't know if that's even technically possible. * I say Kagi here since they're the most prominent one I know of that are thinking about this problem. I am aware that that they too can change in the future.

jolmg 5mo ago
I don't understand why you'd want to advocate for creating a new monopoly. Having a rich, diverse market of competing search engines would be the ideal.
- ares623 5mo ago
  That's part of my point. We already tried a rich, diverse market of competing search engines and it still ended up in a monopoly. In fact I would argue it was inevitable. At least this way the site owners get to choose their monopoly master. So in a way it's democratized. If Google can be blocked successfully (big IF), then Kagi can as well if they change their tune.
zahlman 5mo ago
"Allow"? What are they doing to do about it?

8organicbits 5mo ago

I maintain a similar index-of-indexes but it's intentionally non-curated, restricted to indexes that use the OPML format, and uses autodiscovery to expand the list. The site needs some work, but it's up to 356 indexes. https://blogroll-network.alexsci.com/blogrolls/ https://blogroll-network.alexsci.com/blogrolls/ I'd recommend looking at anything with "planet" in the name, there are a bunch of tech communities that manage community feeds and they are high quality. There are also a ton of personal blogroll recommendations via micro.blog too.

8organicbits 5mo ago
Another index-of-indexes is https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm https://brisray.com/web/webring-list.htm, which tracks 648 webrings! And https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm https://brisray.com/web/indiedirs.htm, which has some other great indieweb indexes
- culi 5mo ago
  Now we need an index of indexes of indexes. I too keep such a list but it's just an Obsidian note I manually update https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48089823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48089823 I also have a separate list of my favorite parts of the internet I plan to eventually turn into something like this: https://wilderness.land/ https://wilderness.land/ (my inspo)

culi 5mo ago

Shocked at the exclusion of gossips web! I have a very similar list: - indieblog.page, gossipsweb.net, html.energy, yesterweb.org, xn--sr8hvo.ws, personalsit.es, readsomethinginteresting.com, ooh.directory - indieweb.org, handmade.network - 1mb.club, 512kb.club, 250kb.club, 10kbclub.com, 1kb.club - no-js.club, js1k.com, js1024.fun - nocss.club - uses.tech, nownownow.com, aprilcools.club - whimsical.club, brutalistwebsites.com, spaghetti.directory - neocities.org Not sure if these are all still online since it's an old list

rocketpastsix 5mo ago
definitely have a bunch of these but I know a few are missing! Feel free to submit them :)

RyanJohn 5mo ago

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yamanakatakeshi 5mo ago

[dead]

bitvvip 5mo ago

I visited it and it looks quite simple in style