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I miss heroku dearly. somewhere at Salesforce there is an exec who killed the product and shifted it to enterprise and is now looking at the vibe coding revolut

I miss heroku dearly. somewhere at Salesforce there is an exec who killed the product and shifted it to enterprise and is now looking at the vibe coding revolution seeing their opportunity missed.

christophilus 5mo ago
Render has been excellent replacement, in my experience.
- baobabKoodaa 5mo ago
  Last time I tried render, it did not allow me to spin up 1 instance of my web app, so I'm never going back. (To clarify: Render would always spin up a minimum of 2 instances.)
cpursley 5mo ago
Fly and Render are what heroku would be if they didn’t stop innovating. And neon db for Postgres.
- trashburger 5mo ago
  > And neon db for Postgres. For 90% of the time when they're up.
- baobabKoodaa 5mo ago
  Fly is unreliable. Render does not allow you to spin up 1 instance of an app.
the__alchemist 5mo ago
Why? It is still up, and working just as it used to.
- ceejayoz 5mo ago
  That won't last. https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/ https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/
  - the__alchemist 5mo ago
    Uhoh. I don't know what that means, but I unfortunately detect double-speak.
    - benoau 5mo ago
      No longer developing new features or offering new contracts, but eVerYtHinG iS FiNe.
maccard 5mo ago
Digital ocean is the answer. You give it a container and off you go.
- ipaddr 5mo ago
  Use to be now they are requiring 2fa for addon domains over a certain amount
  - ceejayoz 5mo ago
    Of all the things to be upset about, mandatory 2FA doesn't seem like one.
    - ipaddr 5mo ago
      2FA has been in place for years through email but this new requirement forces a phone.
      - ceejayoz 5mo ago
        Good. E-mail based 2FA is bad, and they appear to support TOTP too as an option, as they should. Wish they supported U2F though.
        ipaddr 5mo ago
        Why is email based 2fa bad but phone good? There are classes of issues you get through phone 2fa compared to email
        ceejayoz 5mo ago
        Typically, you can also reset password via email, so it's really only one factor. Compromised email = compromised server.
  - maccard 5mo ago
    It’s negligent to not use 2FA for any cloud platform where credentials can be used to spin up resources.
iamflimflam1 5mo ago
I suspect the people responsible have fully justified to themselves any decisions they made, helped along with any bonuses they got for doing it.
catlifeonmars 5mo ago
More likely than not they’re probably long gone, or have completely forgotten. The idea that someone out there regrets that decision is laughable. The fact that it’s laughable is sad.
datadrivenangel 5mo ago
I've been enjoying railway!

I miss heroku dearly. somewhere at Salesforce there is an exec who killed the product and shifted it to enterprise and is now looking at the vibe coding revolution seeing their opportunity missed.

christophilus 5mo ago

Render has been excellent replacement, in my experience.

baobabKoodaa 5mo ago
Last time I tried render, it did not allow me to spin up 1 instance of my web app, so I'm never going back. (To clarify: Render would always spin up a minimum of 2 instances.)

cpursley 5mo ago

Fly and Render are what heroku would be if they didn’t stop innovating. And neon db for Postgres.

trashburger 5mo ago
> And neon db for Postgres. For 90% of the time when they're up.
baobabKoodaa 5mo ago
Fly is unreliable. Render does not allow you to spin up 1 instance of an app.

the__alchemist 5mo ago

Why? It is still up, and working just as it used to.

ceejayoz 5mo ago
That won't last. https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/ https://www.heroku.com/blog/an-update-on-heroku/
- the__alchemist 5mo ago
  Uhoh. I don't know what that means, but I unfortunately detect double-speak.
  - benoau 5mo ago
    No longer developing new features or offering new contracts, but eVerYtHinG iS FiNe.

maccard 5mo ago

Digital ocean is the answer. You give it a container and off you go.

ipaddr 5mo ago
Use to be now they are requiring 2fa for addon domains over a certain amount
- ceejayoz 5mo ago
  Of all the things to be upset about, mandatory 2FA doesn't seem like one.
  - ipaddr 5mo ago
    2FA has been in place for years through email but this new requirement forces a phone.
    - ceejayoz 5mo ago
      Good. E-mail based 2FA is bad, and they appear to support TOTP too as an option, as they should. Wish they supported U2F though.
      - ipaddr 5mo ago
        Why is email based 2fa bad but phone good? There are classes of issues you get through phone 2fa compared to email
        ceejayoz 5mo ago
        Typically, you can also reset password via email, so it's really only one factor. Compromised email = compromised server.
- maccard 5mo ago
  It’s negligent to not use 2FA for any cloud platform where credentials can be used to spin up resources.

iamflimflam1 5mo ago

I suspect the people responsible have fully justified to themselves any decisions they made, helped along with any bonuses they got for doing it.

catlifeonmars 5mo ago

More likely than not they’re probably long gone, or have completely forgotten. The idea that someone out there regrets that decision is laughable. The fact that it’s laughable is sad.

datadrivenangel 5mo ago

I've been enjoying railway!