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These sorts of laws have repeatedly failed to pass in Europe due to people protesting. The government just keeps coming back and trying again it seems. What ma
by tensor 5mo ago
These sorts of laws have repeatedly failed to pass in Europe due to people protesting. The government just keeps coming back and trying again it seems.
What makes you think French citizens don’t care?
- userbinator 5mo agoMaybe it's time for France to reconsider its relationship with the EU.
- palata 5mo agoThe French people typically elect far-right politicians to represent them at the EU level, so...
- userbinator 5mo agoIt's not about left or right, but up and down.
- 0dayz 5mo agoThat makes little sense if you know some basic political science, the EU is comprised of different political interest groups just like your country is. Unless you literally belive everyone in the EU belive the exact same thing and there's zero disagreements what do ever.
- shakow 5mo agoKind of, at least in France? Our privacy-nefarious laws have been passed by both left- and right-leaning governments. It seems that if there is something the elite agrees upon, it is that the plebeians should be kept in check.
- tardedmeme 5mo agoWhich are also known as right and left, respectively. What, did you think right and left were arbitrary? The words are arbitrary, but the meanings are not. They correlate quite strongly with the material interests of the up and down.
- novok 5mo agoStalin & Mao would like to have a word with you.
- tardedmeme 5mo ago... okay? I thought they were dead. What about the entire rest of the world that is left or right. We're not stuck between a choice of Staln (left), and Htler (right) - there are more reasonable people in the world, even more reasonable politicians.
- userbinator 5mo agoNo, I'm referring to authoritarianism (up) and libertarianism (down).
- palata 5mo agoRight, can we agree on "extremists" then? Takes the far-left, far-right, far-authoritarian and far-libertarian altogether.
- sunshine-o 5mo agoIt is true that "far-right politicians" had the most chance to be elected in the EU parliament but this is in fact insignificant. How individual country influence the EU is there is an invisible battle on putting their people anywhere under the commissioners. There are a lot of career people you will never hear about yielding immense power there and from what I know they do not have a political affiliation how we understand it (left, right, etc.) If you are a corporation or foreign actor and you need something from the EU you cannot care less about the people elected in the fake parliament. If your chance of influencing or blocking something is in the parliament, you already lost. Most people have a hard time wrapping their head around this because we actually have a better understanding how the US political system works, individual EU countries or even the CCP.
- palata 5mo agoWell I disagree.
- 0dayz 5mo agoThis is France pushing this onto themselves?
- Georgelemental 5mo agoThe French people did consider that, in the referendum on Maastricht. The politicians ignored the results
- HerbManic 5mo agoI do think they care but you hit on a point. Governments just keep trying to force this and eventually wear down the resistance to it. They can try repeatedly as it only has to work once.
- tensor 5mo agoYeah, this feels like an exploit used by many governments these days. You see the same thing in the US where the Republicans just keep filing appeals or lawsuits until they eventually get what they want. Over and over and over and over. Governments should probably adopt some sort of "retry" limit for these things. Good luck getting that passed though I suppose.
- vkou 5mo agoThat would just be abused by people who want to permanently enshrine a bad status quo. They'll file X really shitty, bad faith challenges, and when they all fail, everyone will be permanently stuck with a bad thing. Imagine if women's suffrage failed 5 times, and hey, guess we'll never get it, 5 times is the limit.
- novok 5mo ago[flagged]
- naruhodo 5mo agoProp 13, for those who don't know... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_California_Proposition_13 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_California_Proposition_13
- Teever 5mo agoHas anyone else noticed a tendency of American users to turn every conversation that isn't about America into one about America? It would be super neat to not see this turn into yet another conversation about American tax policy.
- tw04 5mo ago>What makes you think French citizens don’t care? ...because they haven't protested the proposed law? If they have, do you have a link? I've not seen any coverage in mainstream or independent media.