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Isn't this the same group that had one of their '90-day' buildings collapse not long ago?

by james33 14y ago

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fatjokes 14y ago
Can you provide a source to your claim?
forrestthewoods 14y ago
A variety of buildings have collapsed in China in recent years. Here's one good example with great pictures. I don't know if it's the same company or not. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196064/Tumbling-tower-China-Amazing-pictures-13-storey-block-flats-toppled-over.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196064/Tumbling-tow...
- wisty 14y ago
  And that's not a 90 day pre-fab building. IIRC, they had a dodgy underground carpark, which subsided. It had nothing to do with the actual building. Also, the pre-fabs they are starting to build have a lot of steel, which is easy to engineer. Concrete can be more difficult to get right, especially when you don't trust the suppliers (bamboo rebar anyone?).
  - D_Alex 14y ago
    Looks like a crap piling job to me... I must say my first reaction to the OP story was "how long will the foundations take?"
  - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
    But concrete buildings are so common in China because they can be assembled with low-level migrant workers. The move to steel typically requires much higher-level expertise, and so only the tallest buildings get that treatment. But with prefab, this is interesting, they might be able to continue using low-level migrant workers in the factory and during assembly?
evoxed 14y ago
I'm not sure exactly which incident you're referring to as there have been several of these stories coming out of China in the last few years, but as far as I know none are associated with Broad Group. They pride themselves on being safer than other Chinese builders because of the tests they can perform on fabricated pieces– obviously that's what they'd want you to think regardless, but from what I've read it certainly seems to be the case. Chinese construction on average isn't great, and they appear to have their own process down pat even if it misses out on some more exciting design features. Edit: Is this (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world/asia/collapse-of-new-bridge-underscores-chinas-infrastructure-concerns.html http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world/asia/collapse-of-new...) what you're referring to? It's a bridge obviously, and not related to these builders but it was fairly high profile because it hadn't even been open for a full year.

Isn't this the same group that had one of their '90-day' buildings collapse not long ago?

by james33 14y ago

Isn't this the same group that had one of their '90-day' buildings collapse not long ago?

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fatjokes 14y ago

Can you provide a source to your claim?

forrestthewoods 14y ago

A variety of buildings have collapsed in China in recent years. Here's one good example with great pictures. I don't know if it's the same company or not. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196064/Tumbling-tower-China-Amazing-pictures-13-storey-block-flats-toppled-over.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196064/Tumbling-tow...

wisty 14y ago
And that's not a 90 day pre-fab building. IIRC, they had a dodgy underground carpark, which subsided. It had nothing to do with the actual building. Also, the pre-fabs they are starting to build have a lot of steel, which is easy to engineer. Concrete can be more difficult to get right, especially when you don't trust the suppliers (bamboo rebar anyone?).
- D_Alex 14y ago
  Looks like a crap piling job to me... I must say my first reaction to the OP story was "how long will the foundations take?"
- seanmcdirmid 14y ago
  But concrete buildings are so common in China because they can be assembled with low-level migrant workers. The move to steel typically requires much higher-level expertise, and so only the tallest buildings get that treatment. But with prefab, this is interesting, they might be able to continue using low-level migrant workers in the factory and during assembly?

evoxed 14y ago

I'm not sure exactly which incident you're referring to as there have been several of these stories coming out of China in the last few years, but as far as I know none are associated with Broad Group. They pride themselves on being safer than other Chinese builders because of the tests they can perform on fabricated pieces– obviously that's what they'd want you to think regardless, but from what I've read it certainly seems to be the case. Chinese construction on average isn't great, and they appear to have their own process down pat even if it misses out on some more exciting design features. Edit: Is this (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world/asia/collapse-of-new-bridge-underscores-chinas-infrastructure-concerns.html http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/world/asia/collapse-of-new...) what you're referring to? It's a bridge obviously, and not related to these builders but it was fairly high profile because it hadn't even been open for a full year.