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and yet my friend in Moscow is able to use VPN to get around all this

by darqis 5mo ago

jllyhill 5mo ago
This is very up to chance. Sometimes the VPN works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's fine on the home Internet, but fails on the cell data, sometimes it's otherwise. And it is fine if you're somewhat tech savvy and okay with tinkering with settings, but a huge pain for the older relatives.
- villgax 5mo ago
  TURN servers is whats needed in those situations
0-_-0 5mo ago
How about next year?
sandmn 5mo ago
It's cat and mouse game, VPN providers have to constantly update their protocol after being blocked by DPI.
u8080 5mo ago
Yes, indeed, it is still possible. Right now RKN introducing new DPI capabilities at TSPU(govt filtering hw/sw stack mandated at ISP) - proactive host probing/scanning and mandate for russian services to check and report VPN users hosts. I.e. you use e-shop app and it will report you Nehterlands VPS IP if detected, including split-tunneling tricks)
khriss 5mo ago
I'm sure you're able to drive faster than the speed limit as well. The issue isn't whether technical circumvention is in the realm of possibility. The base issue here is that even so called 'democratic' governments seem to be copying the authoritarian playbook when it comes to cracking down on privacy online.
comonoid 5mo ago
"If you are not in prison yet, it is not your merit, but our failure." -- attributed to Felix Dzerzhinsky. Upd: are they able to use VPN when the Internet is in so-called "white-list mode" where only certain websites are available?
- HowTheStoryEnds 5mo ago
  Won't they just be able to identify the traffic at his local internet provider as being suitable for a VPN usage match and send 'law enforcement' over?
- Insimwytim 5mo ago
  > attributed to Felix Dzerzhinsky You can attribute it to George Washington or Louis XIV with the same level of verifiability/veracity.
  - comonoid 5mo ago
    English is not my native language, but I believe "attributed" does imply unverifiability. Otherwise other word is used.
Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 5mo ago
Do they sleep well at night?

and yet my friend in Moscow is able to use VPN to get around all this

by darqis 5mo ago

and yet my friend in Moscow is able to use VPN to get around all this

This is very up to chance. Sometimes the VPN works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's fine on the home Internet, but fails on the cell data, sometimes it's otherwise. And it is fine if you're somewhat tech savvy and okay with tinkering with settings, but a huge pain for the older relatives.

villgax 5mo ago
TURN servers is whats needed in those situations

0-_-0 5mo ago

How about next year?

sandmn 5mo ago

It's cat and mouse game, VPN providers have to constantly update their protocol after being blocked by DPI.

u8080 5mo ago

Yes, indeed, it is still possible. Right now RKN introducing new DPI capabilities at TSPU(govt filtering hw/sw stack mandated at ISP) - proactive host probing/scanning and mandate for russian services to check and report VPN users hosts. I.e. you use e-shop app and it will report you Nehterlands VPS IP if detected, including split-tunneling tricks)

khriss 5mo ago

I'm sure you're able to drive faster than the speed limit as well. The issue isn't whether technical circumvention is in the realm of possibility. The base issue here is that even so called 'democratic' governments seem to be copying the authoritarian playbook when it comes to cracking down on privacy online.

comonoid 5mo ago

"If you are not in prison yet, it is not your merit, but our failure." -- attributed to Felix Dzerzhinsky. Upd: are they able to use VPN when the Internet is in so-called "white-list mode" where only certain websites are available?

HowTheStoryEnds 5mo ago
Won't they just be able to identify the traffic at his local internet provider as being suitable for a VPN usage match and send 'law enforcement' over?
Insimwytim 5mo ago
> attributed to Felix Dzerzhinsky You can attribute it to George Washington or Louis XIV with the same level of verifiability/veracity.
- comonoid 5mo ago
  English is not my native language, but I believe "attributed" does imply unverifiability. Otherwise other word is used.

Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe 5mo ago

Do they sleep well at night?