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Only if you’re reissuing right before expiration, which is a stupid thing to do. If you have a 47-day cert, best practice is to reissue on day 30, meaning LE wo
by Analemma_ 5mo ago
Only if you’re reissuing right before expiration, which is a stupid thing to do. If you have a 47-day cert, best practice is to reissue on day 30, meaning LE would need to be down for more than two weeks before anything went wrong.
If this outage breaks your system, that’s entirely on you, not Let’s Encrypt.
- rconti 5mo agoYou're holding your 6-day cert wrong
- gbear605 5mo agoOnly as long as LE isn’t down for 17 days, then we’re in big trouble.
- eqvinox 5mo agoShort-lived = 6 days. Even if you reissue after 2 or 3 days, that's… not a lot of breathing room.
- bakies 5mo ago3-4 days is a ton of breathing room
- striking 5mo agoYou have to opt in, and they are honest about the tradeoffs when discussing them: > Short-lived certificates are opt-in and we have no plan to make them the default at this time. Subscribers that have fully automated their renewal process should be able to switch to short-lived certificates easily if they wish, but we understand that not everyone is in that position and generally comfortable with this significantly shorter lifetime. We hope that over time everyone moves to automated solutions and we can demonstrate that short-lived certificates work well. https://letsencrypt.org/2026/01/15/6day-and-ip-general-availability https://letsencrypt.org/2026/01/15/6day-and-ip-general-avail...
- eqvinox 5mo agoThat's not really an answer, especially with: > We hope that over time everyone moves to automated solutions and we can demonstrate that short-lived certificates work well. They're expressly trying to show that this is a viable approach. It's actually kinda good that this outage, whatever it is, is happening now, as it's giving them a chance to demonstrate (or not) that they can deliver.
- nottorp 5mo ago> no plan to make them the default at this time At this time! Boil the frog slowly...
- Dylan16807 5mo agoIs the frog the guy that still won't automate their certificates?
- nottorp 5mo agoMine are automated. Somehow it reminds me of prayer wheels though...
- Dylan16807 5mo agoForcing certificates to expire in less than a year means people don't forget how to update them, which is a big benefit. And once people automate, short-lived certificates are a workable plan B for how to revoke certificates and have the revocation actually work. These are both reasonable goals.
- nottorp 5mo ago> people don't forget how to update them Seriously? I don't even remember how the letsencrypt auto renew service is called. No idea how I did the initial setup either.
- jameshart 5mo agoUseful context: https://letsencrypt.org/2026/01/15/6day-and-ip-general-availability https://letsencrypt.org/2026/01/15/6day-and-ip-general-avail...
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