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To be fair, people can get phones and install a FOSS OS on it, that's pretty easy, it's sad that Apple does this, but I would expect the same thing on Windows o
by pixel_popping 6mo ago
To be fair, people can get phones and install a FOSS OS on it, that's pretty easy, it's sad that Apple does this, but I would expect the same thing on Windows or practically any commercial provider, nothing is really surprising here.
It actually surprise me how many Linux users that do care about their security & privacy just seem to apply poor judgement when it's about their mobile devices, sure, you might not get the LATEST phone but who cares? Why are people trading their values and expertise the moment they touch the latest Samsung or iPhone? What's so special about them anyway, there is literally alternatives (or just vibe code it) for most softwares on it.
- fithisux 6mo agoYou can't install FOSS on most phones.
- tmtvl 6mo agoIndeed, that's why it's important to vote with your wallet. Buy a phone from a manufacturer/program like Sony's Open Devices (<https://opendevices.sony.net/ https://opendevices.sony.net/>) rather than, say, Apple.
- protimewaster 6mo agoThe Pixel devices are a good option as well. I think it's one of the last remnants of "don't be evil" at Google -- the Pixel devices are quite friendly toward alternative installs, much more so than most manufacturers. And, now that Motorola and Graphene OS have announced a partnership, future Motorola devices may be a good option as well.
- kelvinjps10 6mo agoNever heard of this, sounds good thanks for sharing it
- fithisux 6mo agoIs there any updated list of all these devices? They should be my next one. These are not available in Greece and the one it is is 1720 Euros. Big ouch!!! It is unfortunate that Rapsberry Pi 5 got that expensive because I wanted a Keyboard 500+ just for running some Foss Android Distribution (not a phone replacement)
- tmtvl 6mo agoThere is a list of 'device-sony-[codename]' repositories on Sony's Xperia development GitHub (<https://github.com/sonyxperiadev https://github.com/sonyxperiadev>), if need be you can cross-reference those with the devices listed on the LineageOS website (<https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#sony https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#sony>, interestingly LOS calls the XZ2 Compact the xz2c, when Sony calls it the apollo).
- Melatonic 6mo agoBecause they've made it a huge pain in the ass ? And you often miss out on (for some) essential features like WiFi calling
- carlivar 6mo agoSince when do Linux users care about something being a huge pain in the ass?
- nullpoint420 6mo agoAs a Linux user… you have a good point