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> Tucker Carlson I'd just like to remind everyone that this guy got fired from Fox News for being too extreme an idealogue. > I’m not defending their poor jud

by pjc50 6mo ago

> Tucker Carlson I'd just like to remind everyone that this guy got fired from Fox News for being too extreme an idealogue. > I’m not defending their poor judgement of an infamous con artist At some point you have to hold adult Republicans accountable for their actions. They were warned repeatedly; they chose to ignore the warnings. > ask how it’s possible that such unpopular wars always seem to have bipartisan support Americans love war and guns! This is like, #1 national characteristic as observed by other nations. Especially because America always wins in the movies! The reason Americans are complaining about the Iran war and not the illegal Venezuelan invasion or whatever is because they are losing. (who on earth is Dave Smith?)

specialist 6mo ago
> ... because they are losing. The pnly unforgiveable sin in USA politics.
pphysch 6mo ago
> I'd just like to remind everyone that this guy got fired from Fox News for being too extreme an idealogue. Do you have any evidence that this was the reason?
- selectodude 6mo ago
  I don’t think we need to be providing proof that the sky is blue at this point but here you go. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/oct/31/tucker-carlson-fox-news-book-brian-stelter https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/oct/31/tucker-carlson...
  - tim333 6mo ago
    The article says too big for his boots and part responsible for a $787m libel judgement. Also called Senior Executive Vice President for Corporate Communications a cunt. Doesn't mention idealogue.
  - pphysch 6mo ago
    The article doesn't even include the words "ideologue" or "extreme" or make a similar claim. Very weird and defensive response.
    - selectodude 6mo ago
      It really isn’t. The fact that it seems like people can’t use descriptive adjectives on HN is always so bizarre to me.
      - pphysch 6mo ago
        You should try using better description adjectives, like "rude", "racist", "uppity" instead of spreading misinformation.
    - freejazz 6mo ago
      "But ultimately Carlson’s escalating toxicity, which included an undercurrent of white supremacy and a penchant for demeaning women and minorities, led Lachlan Murdoch, the then chief executive of Fox Corp, to pull the plug, the book says." How obtuse are you being?
      - pphysch 6mo ago
        You are being deliberately obtuse. Unbearably rude and "extreme ideologue" are completely different things. There are many Nice & Respectable people who are extreme ideologues. Words have meaning.
        freejazz 6mo ago
        That's incredibly poor reading comprehension on your part. > There are many Nice & Respectable people who are extreme ideologues You can't actually be serious.
        pphysch 6mo ago
        The Nice & Respectable Fox News crowd, that exiled Carlson, were just worshipping a "golden calf" idol of Donald Trump yesterday. The underlying problem here is that you don't know what "ideologue" means.
shafoshaf 6mo ago
>At some point you have to hold adult Republicans accountable for their actions. They were warned repeatedly; they chose to ignore the warnings. The challenge is that with a 2-party system it was take a chance Trump wouldn't be worse than he was the first time, or continue with the Democratic platform, which is not necessarily in alignment with a LOT of people. My personal feeling is that this administration has driven the country off a cliff in a spectacularly fast order. I also think the Democrats positions had us heading for a cliff, but it was at least further away. Trump ran on solving SOME of the right problems. He and all the Republican leadership unfortunately have NONE of the right solutions. I fear the Democrats will think that a rebuke of Trump this election would be a mandate for many of their polices. It isn't, it is a rebuke of the horrible job Trump has done. Tax the rich, solve healthcare, take note that our country is in an economic battle with other countries, and realize the best form of freedom is when everyone has economic opportunity and stability. Both parties "say" they want these things, the Republicans outright lie about it and the Dems do nothing.
linhns 6mo ago
> At some point you have to hold adult Republicans accountable for their actions. They were warned repeatedly; they chose to ignore the warnings. Well, he did win Democrat votes as well because the party put up such horrible candidates twice.
- kashunstva 6mo ago
  > Well, he did win Democrat votes as well because the party put up such horrible candidates twice. In the last cycle, the Democratic Party stumbled egregiously, no question; but the functionally binary choice was between a predictable, if unoriginal bureaucrat vs. a documented prodigious liar and adjudicated rapist. I suppose for some tiny number of self-identifying progressives that would be toss-up, but I would love to understand the value system that could produce such a decision.
  - fatata123 6mo ago
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by pjc50 6mo ago

specialist 6mo ago

> ... because they are losing. The pnly unforgiveable sin in USA politics.

pphysch 6mo ago

> I'd just like to remind everyone that this guy got fired from Fox News for being too extreme an idealogue. Do you have any evidence that this was the reason?

selectodude 6mo ago
I don’t think we need to be providing proof that the sky is blue at this point but here you go. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/oct/31/tucker-carlson-fox-news-book-brian-stelter https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/oct/31/tucker-carlson...
- tim333 6mo ago
  The article says too big for his boots and part responsible for a $787m libel judgement. Also called Senior Executive Vice President for Corporate Communications a cunt. Doesn't mention idealogue.
- pphysch 6mo ago
  The article doesn't even include the words "ideologue" or "extreme" or make a similar claim. Very weird and defensive response.
  - selectodude 6mo ago
    It really isn’t. The fact that it seems like people can’t use descriptive adjectives on HN is always so bizarre to me.
    - pphysch 6mo ago
      You should try using better description adjectives, like "rude", "racist", "uppity" instead of spreading misinformation.
  - freejazz 6mo ago
    "But ultimately Carlson’s escalating toxicity, which included an undercurrent of white supremacy and a penchant for demeaning women and minorities, led Lachlan Murdoch, the then chief executive of Fox Corp, to pull the plug, the book says." How obtuse are you being?
    - pphysch 6mo ago
      You are being deliberately obtuse. Unbearably rude and "extreme ideologue" are completely different things. There are many Nice & Respectable people who are extreme ideologues. Words have meaning.
      - freejazz 6mo ago
        That's incredibly poor reading comprehension on your part. > There are many Nice & Respectable people who are extreme ideologues You can't actually be serious.
        pphysch 6mo ago
        The Nice & Respectable Fox News crowd, that exiled Carlson, were just worshipping a "golden calf" idol of Donald Trump yesterday. The underlying problem here is that you don't know what "ideologue" means.

shafoshaf 6mo ago

>At some point you have to hold adult Republicans accountable for their actions. They were warned repeatedly; they chose to ignore the warnings. The challenge is that with a 2-party system it was take a chance Trump wouldn't be worse than he was the first time, or continue with the Democratic platform, which is not necessarily in alignment with a LOT of people. My personal feeling is that this administration has driven the country off a cliff in a spectacularly fast order. I also think the Democrats positions had us heading for a cliff, but it was at least further away. Trump ran on solving SOME of the right problems. He and all the Republican leadership unfortunately have NONE of the right solutions. I fear the Democrats will think that a rebuke of Trump this election would be a mandate for many of their polices. It isn't, it is a rebuke of the horrible job Trump has done. Tax the rich, solve healthcare, take note that our country is in an economic battle with other countries, and realize the best form of freedom is when everyone has economic opportunity and stability. Both parties "say" they want these things, the Republicans outright lie about it and the Dems do nothing.

linhns 6mo ago

> At some point you have to hold adult Republicans accountable for their actions. They were warned repeatedly; they chose to ignore the warnings. Well, he did win Democrat votes as well because the party put up such horrible candidates twice.

kashunstva 6mo ago
> Well, he did win Democrat votes as well because the party put up such horrible candidates twice. In the last cycle, the Democratic Party stumbled egregiously, no question; but the functionally binary choice was between a predictable, if unoriginal bureaucrat vs. a documented prodigious liar and adjudicated rapist. I suppose for some tiny number of self-identifying progressives that would be toss-up, but I would love to understand the value system that could produce such a decision.
- fatata123 6mo ago
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