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Social logins, email logins, password resets, multi-tenant, organizations, many to many users to organizations, etc etc. Not necessary for MVP, but can definite

Social logins, email logins, password resets, multi-tenant, organizations, many to many users to organizations, etc etc. Not necessary for MVP, but can definitely be painful hacking in later if the MVP hits.

koliber 5mo ago
What you are talking about is in a large part authentication. You can do authentication using an external service and still have your user table locally. You can also do authorization locally with a local session table while leaving authentication to a SaaS.
RedShift1 5mo ago
By the time you're so big you need all of that, there will be other people at the table to "hack that in".
- SkyPuncher 5mo ago
  I strongly disagree. If you’re selling to other businesses, much of that is an expectation.
xmcp123 5mo ago
All I am seeing here is Django modules
pdimitar 5mo ago
Social logins, multi-tenant and organizations are very far from table-stakes for an MVP. Whether it's painful to put in later or not is sadly nothing that the managers and executives concern themselves with.
- Orygin 5mo ago
  Depends on the company and product. The SSO/Social login, multi tenant and multi platform are indeed needed for my MVP.
  - pdimitar 5mo ago
    Indeed it depends of course. Though I don't find it fair for those requirements to be presented as table-stakes and required, as my original parent comment seems to have done.
the__alchemist 5mo ago
Django, Rails etc handles this.
- mvkel 5mo ago
  So... you just have to not build your web app in the most popular web app language? Somehow i think there will be big time debt from that decision
  - the__alchemist 5mo ago
    Those are both very popular languages for web backends, and both of those platforms are mature and robust.
  - xmcp123 5mo ago
    Not as big as the debt you will get from having to implement it all yourself. And it's not like he's suggesting you use cobol - there is not an issue of finding people who can work with both rails and django, so the popularity isn't really relevant.

koliber 5mo ago

What you are talking about is in a large part authentication. You can do authentication using an external service and still have your user table locally. You can also do authorization locally with a local session table while leaving authentication to a SaaS.

RedShift1 5mo ago

By the time you're so big you need all of that, there will be other people at the table to "hack that in".

SkyPuncher 5mo ago
I strongly disagree. If you’re selling to other businesses, much of that is an expectation.

xmcp123 5mo ago

All I am seeing here is Django modules

pdimitar 5mo ago

Social logins, multi-tenant and organizations are very far from table-stakes for an MVP. Whether it's painful to put in later or not is sadly nothing that the managers and executives concern themselves with.

Orygin 5mo ago
Depends on the company and product. The SSO/Social login, multi tenant and multi platform are indeed needed for my MVP.
- pdimitar 5mo ago
  Indeed it depends of course. Though I don't find it fair for those requirements to be presented as table-stakes and required, as my original parent comment seems to have done.

the__alchemist 5mo ago

Django, Rails etc handles this.

mvkel 5mo ago
So... you just have to not build your web app in the most popular web app language? Somehow i think there will be big time debt from that decision
- the__alchemist 5mo ago
  Those are both very popular languages for web backends, and both of those platforms are mature and robust.
- xmcp123 5mo ago
  Not as big as the debt you will get from having to implement it all yourself. And it's not like he's suggesting you use cobol - there is not an issue of finding people who can work with both rails and django, so the popularity isn't really relevant.