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They are free to charge you extra for taking the charger out of the box. So I'd grant them a bit of civil disobedience on this one and just take that nice GaN c
by teekert 6mo ago
They are free to charge you extra for taking the charger out of the box. So I'd grant them a bit of civil disobedience on this one and just take that nice GaN charger.
I can see the EU's take on this, and maybe overall this will even be good. I have some nice Anker chargers and can charge everything we have at home with them (added some USB-C to ligthning/micro-USB thingies here and there), but I'd be a bit annoyed if the EU would force my company operating with small margins to have 2 versions of my packaging workflow.
Maybe they should just "encourage" good behaviour? With a law that is less forcing, ie just say: "If you offer a version without charger, the price must be the same as with charger. " That would (slightly) encourage leaving it out, while not forcing companies' hands.
The laptop is being shipped anyway, so I assume the charger in there may be a "sweet deal" if you need one. 65W GaN chargers are a nice sweet-spot at the moment (size/power/price-wise), ie Ikea has one at 14 eur), wouldn't mine having one or two extra.
- retired 6mo agoThe easiest option to implement would be to have separate SKUs for the charger and the laptop. And not three SKUs: laptop with charger, laptop without charger, separate charger. If you ship to multiple countries you can reduce the SKUs even more as the laptop SKU isn’t country specific anymore. Offering a version without the charger for the same price would not reduce ewaste which is the point.
- IshKebab 6mo agoThe laptop SKU probably would be country specific due to keyboard layouts though.
- retired 6mo agoForgot about that one! And EU devices need an engraved trash-can (WEEE symbol) https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/product-requirements/labels-markings/weee-label/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/product-requirements/l...
- amarant 6mo agoNice Glyph for the delete key! I wonder if that would be seen as compliance...?
- throwuxiytayq 6mo ago> The laptop is being shipped anyway, so I assume the charger in there may be a "sweet deal" if you need one You do realize you’re paying for the charger, right? And you don’t like the option of not having to purchase the charger?
- teekert 6mo agoSure. And support is paying for people that are buying chargers that are too weak. Or otherwise crappy. This is a Dutch source, but BTO charged 25 eur to remove the charger [0], because they prefer not to deal with people trying their own wonky chargers. Ok, so this was a 100 W+ laptop, arguably different (BTO only does this with 100 W+ models). [0]: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/245774/bto-rekent-25-euro-boete-om-gamelaptops-te-leveren-zonder-adapter.html https://tweakers.net/nieuws/245774/bto-rekent-25-euro-boete-...
- retired 6mo agoBTO does that because their laptops use more than what USB-PD can deliver (240 watt). That is an understandable use case for supplying a power adapter.
- throwuxiytayq 6mo agoJust display a warning during purchase. This is a UI/communication issue. It’s up to the customer to decide whether they want to risk the opt out. I bought a laptop without a charger the other day, plugged it into a charger I already had, and it works great (even under load). YMMV.