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> Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. Sorry, but no, you totally miss the fact there are domain farms whic

by cromka 6mo ago

> Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. Sorry, but no, you totally miss the fact there are domain farms which buy the dropped domains and then offer them up for sale. Bots now use AI to analyze the domain's value and automate the whole process. To be able to let AI buy it as well likely offers a tremendous amount of time saving.

misnome 6mo ago
Hasn’t all that been automated by people for decades anyway? I guess this, lowers the barrier to entry for this extremely specific niche?
przmk 6mo ago
It offers value to parasites who buy domains and resell them?
- estimator7292 6mo ago
  Cloudflare gets a cut though, so it's valuable. As long as number go up, all good
  - adventured 6mo ago
    Cloudflare operates as an at-cost registrar. They charge wholesale prices for domains. What cut are you talking about?
    - pocksuppet 6mo ago
      They may be wrong on that particular point, but Cloudflare definitely profits from increased crime as it drives increased sales of Cloudflare's security products. There are rumors they even knowingly help protect DDoS botnets because they benefit from there being more DDoS.
2000UltraDeluxe 6mo ago
It's not like there aren't others who sell domains with an API. This doesn't change that much.
fontain 6mo ago
Complete and utter nonsense. Domain registration is already API driven and has been for decades. The most sophisticated domain name investors (or "domain farms") go as far as to own registrars directly so they have instant access to the registries. Nobody involved in domains would use Cloudflare's product because they already have and have had automations for decades. For example, DropCatch (NameBright) own over 1,000 different registrars so that they have over 1,000 direct routes to Verisign's .com registry. GName are a new player in the space, approaching 1,000 registrars. The amount these companies spend on their registrar licensing alone is many millions of dollars[1]. Cloudflare's product adds nothing new to the world of domains. Anyone has been able to go to OpenSRS and sign up as a reseller with API access for over 20 years. [1] The majority of ICANN's registrar revenue comes from just a few companies that own thousands of registrars collectively: https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids.xhtml https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids... cmd + f "DropCatch" and "GName"
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Griffinsauce 6mo ago
So actively making the internet worse. Awesome.
dawnerd 6mo ago
And that goes back way further than AI. We were doing some crazy stuff at Demand Media with enom and all their fake content sites.
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by cromka 6mo ago

misnome 6mo ago

Hasn’t all that been automated by people for decades anyway? I guess this, lowers the barrier to entry for this extremely specific niche?

przmk 6mo ago

It offers value to parasites who buy domains and resell them?

estimator7292 6mo ago
Cloudflare gets a cut though, so it's valuable. As long as number go up, all good
- adventured 6mo ago
  Cloudflare operates as an at-cost registrar. They charge wholesale prices for domains. What cut are you talking about?
  - pocksuppet 6mo ago
    They may be wrong on that particular point, but Cloudflare definitely profits from increased crime as it drives increased sales of Cloudflare's security products. There are rumors they even knowingly help protect DDoS botnets because they benefit from there being more DDoS.

2000UltraDeluxe 6mo ago

It's not like there aren't others who sell domains with an API. This doesn't change that much.

fontain 6mo ago

Complete and utter nonsense. Domain registration is already API driven and has been for decades. The most sophisticated domain name investors (or "domain farms") go as far as to own registrars directly so they have instant access to the registries. Nobody involved in domains would use Cloudflare's product because they already have and have had automations for decades. For example, DropCatch (NameBright) own over 1,000 different registrars so that they have over 1,000 direct routes to Verisign's .com registry. GName are a new player in the space, approaching 1,000 registrars. The amount these companies spend on their registrar licensing alone is many millions of dollars[1]. Cloudflare's product adds nothing new to the world of domains. Anyone has been able to go to OpenSRS and sign up as a reseller with API access for over 20 years. [1] The majority of ICANN's registrar revenue comes from just a few companies that own thousands of registrars collectively: https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids.xhtml https://www.iana.org/assignments/registrar-ids/registrar-ids... cmd + f "DropCatch" and "GName"

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Griffinsauce 6mo ago

So actively making the internet worse. Awesome.

dawnerd 6mo ago

And that goes back way further than AI. We were doing some crazy stuff at Demand Media with enom and all their fake content sites.

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