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Maybe we need to start a GoFundMe to sponsor some of these Starlink terminals.... ?

by mlmonkey 5mo ago

rblatz 5mo ago
It’s the death penalty for anyone caught with one.
- squigz 5mo ago
  Some things are worth the risk.
  - donkey_brains 5mo ago
    The point being that we need to not incriminate these people.
- Levitz 5mo ago
  Per the article, it's seemingly not? >Last year, the Iranian government passed legislation that made using, buying or selling Starlink devices punishable by up to two years in prison. The jail term for distributing or importing more than 10 devices can be up to 10 years.
  - nullsanity 5mo ago
    Per reports as of a few days ago, yes there are very much murdering people with starlink. Last year was before the current crisis. People are being murdered in the streets daily by the regime, and ordinary people are desperate for it to end.
  - throwawaypath 5mo ago
    Shocking, but it may soon be (or is currently) true: "Iran Prepares Death Penalty Law for Starlink Internet Use" https://iranwire.com/en/news/145471-iran-prepares-death-penalty-law-for-starlink-internet-use/ https://iranwire.com/en/news/145471-iran-prepares-death-pena...
  - pwdisswordfishq 5mo ago
    Yeah but then Hesam died [1] ... yesterday in jail before having a trial. He was 40, wasn't an activist and had two daughters. EDIT: To provide more context: Let's say that "John" is arrested for having had "illegal internet access" (not even owning a starlink). Even if he has a trial, the prosecutor can, and will, argue that he could have used his a secure channel to collaborate with the Mossad and CIA. If they find any unfavorable social media posts on his phone (and believe me, they will) they will say that he has endangered the national security by encouraging unrest and violent protests. This would then amount to waging war against God and death penalty. If his phone is so clean that they don't find anything, it must be the fact that he is an agent, a mercenary. They will torture him until he confesses to having collaborated with Mossad. They will then air a forced confession on TV. John might get lucky and have a caring family member from IRGC. In that case you might be right, he will only receive a prison sentence. If he had had a higher ranking IRGC family member he could even go further and start selling his starlink VPN for around $5 / GB. It's not even a hypothetical situation, I had to buy one of these (and it indeed was a starlink connection) four weeks ago ... [1] https://x.com/indypersian/status/2050088043118211341 https://x.com/indypersian/status/2050088043118211341
    - jiggawatts 5mo ago
      “So, what do you use your Internet access for? What could be worth risking life in prison - or worse - for? Not to mention the exorbitant pricing!?” “I correct people on Hacker News.” “Worth it.”
  - nickff 5mo ago
    The regime has killed 40k of their own citizens; they don’t seem to be going through due process and sentencing in court…
- Pay08 5mo ago
  In all fairness, that's true for a lot of things in Iran, and some of those are not actually enforced or only enforced some of the time (which is where the forcibly transitioning gay people thing came from).
throwaway27448 5mo ago
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- UltraSane 5mo ago
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  - FridayoLeary 5mo ago
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    - throwaway27448 5mo ago
      Cuz i'm not a credulous rube, and I know a terrorist state when I see one. I'll believe iran is capable of the kind of terror that israel has perpetrated on video every for my entire life when I see the evidence If that makes me an antisemite fine. The word seems to just mean "person who criticizes an obviously terrorist state" anyway. Nothing hezbollah has ever done can justify invasion; if it did, the entire world would have used the same justification to bomb telaviv eighty years ago and every decade since
      - UltraSane 5mo ago
        Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas all explicitly want to destroy Israel. They say this loudly and proudly. Israel just wants to not be destroyed and endlessly attacked. If Israel is a "terrorist state" then so is Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran.

Maybe we need to start a GoFundMe to sponsor some of these Starlink terminals.... ?

rblatz 5mo ago

It’s the death penalty for anyone caught with one.

squigz 5mo ago
Some things are worth the risk.
- donkey_brains 5mo ago
  The point being that we need to not incriminate these people.
Levitz 5mo ago
Per the article, it's seemingly not? >Last year, the Iranian government passed legislation that made using, buying or selling Starlink devices punishable by up to two years in prison. The jail term for distributing or importing more than 10 devices can be up to 10 years.
- nullsanity 5mo ago
  Per reports as of a few days ago, yes there are very much murdering people with starlink. Last year was before the current crisis. People are being murdered in the streets daily by the regime, and ordinary people are desperate for it to end.
- throwawaypath 5mo ago
  Shocking, but it may soon be (or is currently) true: "Iran Prepares Death Penalty Law for Starlink Internet Use" https://iranwire.com/en/news/145471-iran-prepares-death-penalty-law-for-starlink-internet-use/ https://iranwire.com/en/news/145471-iran-prepares-death-pena...
- pwdisswordfishq 5mo ago
  Yeah but then Hesam died [1] ... yesterday in jail before having a trial. He was 40, wasn't an activist and had two daughters. EDIT: To provide more context: Let's say that "John" is arrested for having had "illegal internet access" (not even owning a starlink). Even if he has a trial, the prosecutor can, and will, argue that he could have used his a secure channel to collaborate with the Mossad and CIA. If they find any unfavorable social media posts on his phone (and believe me, they will) they will say that he has endangered the national security by encouraging unrest and violent protests. This would then amount to waging war against God and death penalty. If his phone is so clean that they don't find anything, it must be the fact that he is an agent, a mercenary. They will torture him until he confesses to having collaborated with Mossad. They will then air a forced confession on TV. John might get lucky and have a caring family member from IRGC. In that case you might be right, he will only receive a prison sentence. If he had had a higher ranking IRGC family member he could even go further and start selling his starlink VPN for around $5 / GB. It's not even a hypothetical situation, I had to buy one of these (and it indeed was a starlink connection) four weeks ago ... [1] https://x.com/indypersian/status/2050088043118211341 https://x.com/indypersian/status/2050088043118211341
  - jiggawatts 5mo ago
    “So, what do you use your Internet access for? What could be worth risking life in prison - or worse - for? Not to mention the exorbitant pricing!?” “I correct people on Hacker News.” “Worth it.”
- nickff 5mo ago
  The regime has killed 40k of their own citizens; they don’t seem to be going through due process and sentencing in court…
Pay08 5mo ago
In all fairness, that's true for a lot of things in Iran, and some of those are not actually enforced or only enforced some of the time (which is where the forcibly transitioning gay people thing came from).

throwaway27448 5mo ago

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UltraSane 5mo ago
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- FridayoLeary 5mo ago
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  - throwaway27448 5mo ago
    Cuz i'm not a credulous rube, and I know a terrorist state when I see one. I'll believe iran is capable of the kind of terror that israel has perpetrated on video every for my entire life when I see the evidence If that makes me an antisemite fine. The word seems to just mean "person who criticizes an obviously terrorist state" anyway. Nothing hezbollah has ever done can justify invasion; if it did, the entire world would have used the same justification to bomb telaviv eighty years ago and every decade since
    - UltraSane 5mo ago
      Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas all explicitly want to destroy Israel. They say this loudly and proudly. Israel just wants to not be destroyed and endlessly attacked. If Israel is a "terrorist state" then so is Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran.