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My thinking is that if there would be more money in releasing Mythos and Cyber than there is in just scary unverifiable (or verified using very favorable contex

by pluc 5mo ago

My thinking is that if there would be more money in releasing Mythos and Cyber than there is in just scary unverifiable (or verified using very favorable context - Mythos) propaganda, they would. These aren't people that go for second best or care about the state of the world.

xandrius 5mo ago
Make it sound "scary good", tell everyone and their mom, charge gullible companies $$$$$ for its premium access and then move on.
- lossolo 5mo ago
  And government contracts.
- andsoitis 5mo ago
  > charge gullible companies $$$$$ The following companies are participating in Project Glasswing (to get out in front what vulnerabilities Mythos is able to find and exploit at scale): AWS, Apple, Broadcom, Cisco, CrowdStrike, Google, JPMorganChase, Linux Foundation, Microsoft, NVIDIA, Palo Alto Networks. Do you think they are all in that gullible category? https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing
0123456789ABCDE 5mo ago
they are already getting paid for opus 4.7, why would they release mythos? assuming mythos is a paper tiger: great marketing, keep going assuming mythos is for real: err, does this have to be explained?
neuronexmachina 5mo ago
I've never seen this explicitly stated, but I assume they also want to show due diligence in case their models are used to write successful exploits that lead to major cyberattacks. Given the current WH's ire towards Anthropic, I could see the current DOJ trying to file criminal charges for aiding/abetting/export-violations/etc.
JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
> These aren't people that go for second best or care about the state of the world My suspicion is an adult in the room realised that simultaneously pissing off every major corporation, government and NGO, and giving them an incentive to bottle you up immediately, could backfire massively. That an inference for Mythos is probably beyond what Anthropic can provide at scale right now.
- pluc 5mo ago
  I don't mean to get into politics but domination by alienation seems to be a trendy American strategy
  - JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
    > domination by alienation What's this?
    - pluc 5mo ago
      No idea, and it's too early to tell, but yes it sounds super dumb and it is.

by pluc 5mo ago

xandrius 5mo ago

Make it sound "scary good", tell everyone and their mom, charge gullible companies $$$$$ for its premium access and then move on.

lossolo 5mo ago
And government contracts.
andsoitis 5mo ago
> charge gullible companies $$$$$ The following companies are participating in Project Glasswing (to get out in front what vulnerabilities Mythos is able to find and exploit at scale): AWS, Apple, Broadcom, Cisco, CrowdStrike, Google, JPMorganChase, Linux Foundation, Microsoft, NVIDIA, Palo Alto Networks. Do you think they are all in that gullible category? https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing

0123456789ABCDE 5mo ago

they are already getting paid for opus 4.7, why would they release mythos? assuming mythos is a paper tiger: great marketing, keep going assuming mythos is for real: err, does this have to be explained?

neuronexmachina 5mo ago

I've never seen this explicitly stated, but I assume they also want to show due diligence in case their models are used to write successful exploits that lead to major cyberattacks. Given the current WH's ire towards Anthropic, I could see the current DOJ trying to file criminal charges for aiding/abetting/export-violations/etc.

JumpCrisscross 5mo ago

> These aren't people that go for second best or care about the state of the world My suspicion is an adult in the room realised that simultaneously pissing off every major corporation, government and NGO, and giving them an incentive to bottle you up immediately, could backfire massively. That an inference for Mythos is probably beyond what Anthropic can provide at scale right now.

pluc 5mo ago
I don't mean to get into politics but domination by alienation seems to be a trendy American strategy
- JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
  > domination by alienation What's this?
  - pluc 5mo ago
    No idea, and it's too early to tell, but yes it sounds super dumb and it is.