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Related: Mozilla did a review of different cars for privacy: (https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-
by Cider9986 6mo ago
Related: Mozilla did a review of different cars for privacy:
(https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/ https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/arti...)
>Nissan earned its second-to-last spot for collecting some of the creepiest categories of data we have ever seen. [Their privacy policy] includes your “sexual activity.” Not to be out done, Kia also mentions they can collect information about your “sex life” in their privacy policy. Oh, and six car companies say they can collect your “genetic information” or “genetic characteristics.”
- pesus 6mo agoIgnoring the fact that it's absolutely unhinged and bonkers to include that in the first place, I don't even understand how they could possibly ever get any information about that. Are they using LLMs to generate these policies without review? Or are there really lawyers out there who thought this was pertinent and important to include?
- LamaOfRuin 6mo agoAny car that can record audio in the cabin could have information about your sexual activity. Could also argue it based on location data. Some laws require discussing very specific lists of categories of information they might have. I'm guessing this is a completionist CYA lawyer accounting for this.
- henryfjordan 6mo agoI was thinking all it takes is an IMU to tell if the car is a rockin'
- Barbing 6mo ago150lbs on each front seat at 8pm, 300lbs on one rear seat at 2am, they gotcha like Kalanick & the Uber one night standers https://web.archive.org/web/20140827195715/https://blog.uber.com/ridesofglory https://web.archive.org/web/20140827195715/https://blog.uber...
- nullc 6mo agoOr malicious compliance by a true friend to privacy.
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- alternatex 6mo agoLegal wiggle room in case the sleepy eyes cam catches some action? Disclaimer: no idea how the tired driver sensors work.
- fc417fc802 6mo agoBut that safety functionality doesn't require storing or transmitting the footage ...
- hsbauauvhabzb 6mo agoYou’re thinking like a consumer and not a business who could make money by transmitting that footage and using it for other purposes!
- saltcured 6mo agoWell, there's the old cliche of someone being conceived in the back seat of their grandparent's Chevy... so a little extra DSP analysis with the seat occupancy sensors? :-)
- bombcar 6mo agoNow I want a hacker competition - I’m seeing utilizing the microphone, TPS, roll sensors, seat occupancy/airbag sensors …
- conductr 6mo agoThey’re just including everything to be clear that you have no privacy in this agreement, so they don’t have to think about it too much when they realize there’s something more they can collect.
- ratmeadow 6mo agoJust wait until genome sequencing becomes cheap enough...
- numpad0 6mo agoApparently there are cases of passenger's jaw closing on the driver's protrusion on crash, causing injuries
- lschueller 6mo agoI get your point of view. But many many many years ago meta searches for persons already included categories like "sexual orientation" and got this data points from myspace profiles no one ever thought of. So, in a lawyers mind there might be some logic behind it, when marketing says, they collect data about people, who recently became parents and the conclusion to somehow classify this type of information into a data category of "sexual activity" as collecting such data is by law allowed in some countries, while collecting data about relationship or children is prohibited. For me, this sounds very much like this corporate thinking of how to defend against the slightes legal risk of undisclosed data handling.
- krunck 6mo agoI wonder how Slate ( https://slate.auto https://slate.auto ) will rate when production begins? I suspect poorly as it's a Bezos property.
- Barbing 6mo agoIf it doesn’t get a perfect score then it was overbuilt and maybe will be underpriced counting on the sale of customer data
- afh1 6mo agoMain reason why I will never buy an EV, and keep driving my Internet-free Honda until it dies, which will likely be after me.
- rootusrootus 6mo agonothing about this has anything to do with EVs
- red369 6mo agoI think the GP was talking about the fact it is hard to find an EV that is bundled with a lot of invasive software. There's another post on this article asking for an EV that doesn't: "need internet connectivity via wifi/esim at all? I'm looking for something really simple. A chassis, four wheels, an engine, airbags. Basically my current ICE car, just electric." I'm hoping that they get a lot of good suggestions, but I'm not holding my breath.
- freeopinion 6mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47865868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47865868 ^^ Not EV, but... :)
- rootusrootus 6mo agoThere are a number of basic EVs that have no more telemetry than the equivalent ICEV. Someone with the requirements you outline is not in the market for any new car, regardless of powertrain.
- kjkjadksj 6mo agoWhat are these on the us market?
- rootusrootus 6mo agoThe boring ones. Things like Bolt, Niro, Equinox, Lightning, etc. Not every EV is like Tesla.
- culi 6mo agoMakes it all the more shocking that Tesla placed last in the review. How do you even beat that?