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This statement really makes no sense.. > Google, Cloudflare, VPN providers, and other entities facilitating piracy are responsible for the illegal activities t

by booi 5mo ago

This statement really makes no sense.. > Google, Cloudflare, VPN providers, and other entities facilitating piracy are responsible for the illegal activities they enable and profit from. Why wouldn't ISPs be responsible too? or the cable modem providers? or the computer providers? or your eyes. Let's just blame all those things and not the person that made it or the person that consumes it.

Symbiote 5mo ago
Cloudflare are actively involved in publishing this content — they are equivalent to the hosting provider.
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- otherme123 5mo ago
  Not true, they just proxy the pirating sites to their true host. They have about the same responsability as the ISP themselves. Maybe you want Cloudflare to decide what to proxy and what to block without a judge ordering it.
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  - 878654Tom 5mo ago
    Your ISP will route your packets and not obfuscate the original destination nor cache any content, provide Ddos protections, WAF,... Cloudflare does.
    - hrimfaxi 5mo ago
      > Your ISP will route your packets and not obfuscate the original destination nor cache any content, That's not true. ISPs modify returned content. https://lukerodgers.ca/2023/12/09/optimum-isp-is-mitming-its-customers/ https://lukerodgers.ca/2023/12/09/optimum-isp-is-mitming-its... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NebuAd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NebuAd
      - allarm 5mo ago
        That's true, at least for most internet service providers. You're just nitpicking for the sake of it.
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    - eggprices 5mo ago
      My ISP obfuscates my location by replacing it with an IP address . However, if the government wants to know my location, they can ask my ISP to find out a physical address based on an IP address. They can also ask Cloudflare to find out an origin IP address based on a domain name. This is normal. It's also slow. The Spanish government doesn't want to bother arresting pirates, it would rather be seen doing something about the problem, without doing something about the problem.
dariosalvi78 5mo ago
it's La Liga, what do you expect?

by booi 5mo ago

Symbiote 5mo ago

Cloudflare are actively involved in publishing this content — they are equivalent to the hosting provider.

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otherme123 5mo ago
Not true, they just proxy the pirating sites to their true host. They have about the same responsability as the ISP themselves. Maybe you want Cloudflare to decide what to proxy and what to block without a judge ordering it.
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- 878654Tom 5mo ago
  Your ISP will route your packets and not obfuscate the original destination nor cache any content, provide Ddos protections, WAF,... Cloudflare does.
  - hrimfaxi 5mo ago
    > Your ISP will route your packets and not obfuscate the original destination nor cache any content, That's not true. ISPs modify returned content. https://lukerodgers.ca/2023/12/09/optimum-isp-is-mitming-its-customers/ https://lukerodgers.ca/2023/12/09/optimum-isp-is-mitming-its... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NebuAd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NebuAd
    - allarm 5mo ago
      That's true, at least for most internet service providers. You're just nitpicking for the sake of it.
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  - eggprices 5mo ago
    My ISP obfuscates my location by replacing it with an IP address . However, if the government wants to know my location, they can ask my ISP to find out a physical address based on an IP address. They can also ask Cloudflare to find out an origin IP address based on a domain name. This is normal. It's also slow. The Spanish government doesn't want to bother arresting pirates, it would rather be seen doing something about the problem, without doing something about the problem.

dariosalvi78 5mo ago

it's La Liga, what do you expect?