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I think it goes beyond this. I was just using claude to edit a blog post which mentioned OpenClaw and I got this response: "The "OpenClaw" reference — I assume
by jrflo 6mo ago
I think it goes beyond this. I was just using claude to edit a blog post which mentioned OpenClaw and I got this response: "The "OpenClaw" reference — I assume that's a typo or playful reference; if you mean a real product, I couldn't find it under that spelling and you'll want to fix or footnote it.". I gave it a direct link to openclaw.ai and the chat instantly ended and hit my 5hr usage limit. Could have been a coincidence, but I had only lightly been using sonnet in the morning so it seems unlikely. Very odd.
- p0w3n3d 6mo agoDragons steal gold and jewels... and they guard their plunder as long as they live... and never enjoy a brass ring of it. Indeed they hardly know a good bit of work from a bad, though they usually have a good notion of the market value
- vscode-rest 6mo agoMy theory is the dragons actually benefit immensely from sitting atop the gold piles as it acts as an amazing heat sink. I don’t think that really fits with the metaphor but I wanted to say my piece regardless.
- p0w3n3d 6mo agoPeople I wouldn't focus on heat sinking. I would focus on hoarding! Not letting others to share their precious things with them
- rurp 6mo agoI always thought dragons were reptilian and therefore cold blooded.
- vscode-rest 6mo agoYes, but being cold blooded doesn’t mean their blood is actually cold, it just means that they cannot internally regulate their temperature. For the majority of creatures that means they need external sources of warmth, dragons are unique in that they need external sources of “cool”.
- bombcar 6mo agoWe don’t really have dwarven gold hoards anymore - I’m thinking we can prove climate change is caused by overheating dragons. Everyone send me all your gold and I’ll prove it.
- dylan604 6mo agoWhy do you think places like Fort Knox have never been robbed? They have the best security guard.
- MagicMoonlight 6mo agoLmao, I can 100% believe that they are deliberately filling your usage bar to sabotage their competition. These people have no morals.
- iLoveOncall 6mo agoI mean that also just sounds illegal...
- 2ndorderthought 6mo agoNot if a chatbot did it, maybe. No legal precedence here. Also they are a defense and offense contractor they could kill people and nothing would happen
- nozzlegear 6mo agoChatbot doesn't really make a difference. Swap out Claude with the aws or azure cli increasing your usage to 100% for mentioning some forbidden keyword and it's the same problem.
- iLoveOncall 6mo agoThe chatbot didn't do shit? The person coding the chatbot put this explicit condition in place.
- GolfPopper 6mo agoWould they act differently if it was?
- vile_wretch 6mo agoIt also sounds extremely counterproductive to try and sabotage your competition by.. driving your customers away? I have no love for these companies but it's a silly conclusion to jump to.
- LoganDark 6mo ago
- tantalor 6mo agoIt doesn't look like anything to me
- jrflo 6mo agoThe weird thing is that it found sources for all of my other claims and references no problem, but acted like it didn't know what openclaw was when openclaw.ai is the first thing that pops up on google.
- ACCount37 6mo ago"OpenClaw" is a name from January 27, 2026. It's new enough that it's not in the training data for a lot of AI models. So they, quite literally, don't know what it refers to. "If you don't know an identifier, google it" isn't a very reliable behavior in today's models. They do it, but only sometimes.
- tantalor 6mo agoThat's not how any of this works.
- ACCount37 6mo agoThat's exactly how it works.
- jrflo 6mo agoThat's true, it could have been going from training data and skipping an explicit web search, but it was odd because I specifically asked it to pull references for my blog post, and it pulled ~20 links in the same message it said OpenClaw doesn't exist.
- andruby 6mo agoFor those that don’t get this. It’s a reference to West World, where the “hosts” (androids) say this sentence when they see something from the outside world that they are programmed to ignore
- kitsune1 6mo ago[dead]
- apexalpha 6mo agoSame past days it sometimes tried to gaslight me saying OpenClaw isn't a thing.
- whattheheckheck 6mo agoThis is a death sentence for Anthropic if true. Trash models that dont represent reality. What else is RLed out
- lwarfield 6mo agoThis is some real "There is no claw in ba sing se" stuff.
- booleandilemma 6mo agoI was just using claude to edit a blog post There's your problem.
- TN1ck 6mo agoWhy not? I do the same, I tell it the exact content, but I don’t have to do all the rest. My blog is a react based (because I like interactivity) and has no asset pipeline, so it’s not as user friendly to edit the content as e.g. a markdown file.
- zelphirkalt 6mo agoWhat do you need React for in a blog?
- TN1ck 6mo agoCheck this post for example: https://tn1ck.com/blog/how-to-generate-sudokus https://tn1ck.com/blog/how-to-generate-sudokus I use it for the interactivity.
- jrflo 6mo agoI mostly use it to get a general vibecheck, it's pretty decent for fact checking and identifying narrative gaps, as well as finding sources for things I know are true but don't want to spend the time to manually find. Having the LLM output itself get posted is pretty dumb and somewhat disingenuous to people who read it IMO, I'm not just shoveling that out onto the internet
- jwilliams 6mo ago> I don't know what "openclaw" is. It's not something I have knowledge of, and it doesn't appear in your memory or this project's context. As others have pointed out, Anthropic is allowed to have TOS, even if we disagree with it. But having Claude deny the existence of OpenClaw is a way more hazardous and likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution: https://www.anthropic.com/constitution https://www.anthropic.com/constitution
- imiric 6mo ago> likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution A company that goes against their self-proclaimed values... What a shocker.
- AbstractH24 6mo ago>> likely straight up violates Claude's Constitution > A company that goes against their self-proclaimed values... What a shocker Makes you wonder how much of the claims around Mythos are exaggerated to crate hype in advance of a IPO
- malfist 6mo agoSurely and AI company wouldn't exaggerate. Thats securities fraud!
- kentonv 6mo agoCome on, folks. This is not a conspiracy. LLMs have a knowledge cutoff date. Opus 4.7's documented cutoff date is in January. Older Claude models are earlier than that. OpenClaw didn't have the name OpenClaw until January 30th. So indeed, even the latest Claude model does not know what OpenClaw is, unless you have it do a web search. If you have it search, it'll happily tell you all about it.
- ScoobleDoodle 6mo agoExcept GP said they also pointed it to the source website to reference and then had the follow up weirdness.