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IME young people mostly hate AI.

by tomashubelbauer 5mo ago

kilroy123 5mo ago
The young kids I know who are into tech love AI. Albeit this is from a small sample size.
- DaSHacka 5mo ago
  Funnily enough, most of the young people I know fall somewhere between those two sides of the spectrum. I know some actual luddite-tier AI haters that believe it's ontologically evil, and another majoring in Data Science that went to the most recent career fair and told a recruiter "AI will replace you" (I uh don't think he's getting that internship) And of course many, many, others that fall between the two extremes. The one thing we can all agree on, is it makes homework a hell of a lot easier :) (well, except the luddite-types, they refuse to use it in any capacity)
  - whatisthiseven 5mo ago
    The biggest irony with telling a recruiter they'll be replaced, is how much easier a data scientist is to replace with LLMs. With their sycophantic nature, execs will eat up whatever "data" the LLMs make up, too.
    - mbbutler 5mo ago
      No, you don't understand. LLMs will never be capable of knowing what questions to ask, only how to ask the questions. /s
  - bsenftner 5mo ago
    I'm a member of a political action committee, where I was brought in as an expert in professional media applications of AI. I've got extensive experience using AI tools in the production of well known entertainment properties (think VFX for film and animation.) Anyway, within the political action committee where is a diverse mixture of people, with about 1/5th of them under age 30. The entire under age 30 set are so AI negative, to such an irrational degree, I have been asked to do nothing and offer no advice that incorporates any technology at all. They are so paranoid. In a not really emotional discussion, a bunch of them erupted in tears, they are so irrational about it.
    - arjie 5mo ago
      Are you able to share whether the PAC was Democratic Party or Republican Party aligned? When I first came to America, the headlines were about how Obama’s campaign embraced tech successfully. By now, tech is considered right-wing. If the young ‘uns who burst into tears were on a Republican aligned PAC that would be interesting. It would mean cross-political tech angst.
      - bsenftner 5mo ago
        Democratic Party.
- mrguyorama 5mo ago
  What does "into tech" even mean at this point? Watching LTT all day? Playing on their iPhones constantly? Buying wireless earbuds?
bakugo 5mo ago
Do they really? Hating on AI slop is a common sentiment on social media, but remember that the opinions you see on social media are often not representative of what the general population thinks at all. I keep hearing stories about how homework is now useless because every student just gets ChatGPT to do it for them, and from personal experience, I'm inclined to believe them.
- 8organicbits 5mo ago
  > every student just gets ChatGPT to do it I don't believe every student uses a calculator to solve their math homework, so what makes ChatGPT unique here? For certain subjects the ability to cheat has been trivial for a long time, yet there was no crisis.
  - sfink 5mo ago
    The children have long had sticks and stones, so why is everyone so freaked out now that they're all carrying around grenade launchers? What kind of math homework has been trivial to solve with a calculator? I guess you're referring to elementary school arithmetic?
    - 8organicbits 5mo ago
      I don't follow the analogy. When I was in high school a classmate did their chemistry homework by buying the teachers edition of the textbook, which had the answer key. The whole class knew this trick existed, but most of us slogged through the work manually. I knew another group who divided up the homework problems and then combined. Students have always known how to cheat on homework, but enough students actually do it anyway. What makes ChatGPT unique here?
archargelod 5mo ago
Young people love AI when it helps them cheat homework, or when used for roleplay and memes. Generating "content" with AI - is generally more hated, especially art and video.
- austin-cheney 5mo ago
  Sounds hypocritical.
  - tokai 5mo ago
    I hate knives cause they kill people, but I love my kitchen knife when I make dinner.
    - austin-cheney 5mo ago
      That is a bad counter-example, because its just a poorly conceived statement. You apparently don't hate knives. You hate killing people, which isn't remotely similar. Using AI to cheat at academics and then hating on people who use AI to cheat on media creation is absolutely hypocritical. Its qualifying hypocritical stupidity like this results in shoving a single vendor's LLM into the browser. If that's still too complicated then just call it complexity - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_complexity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_complexity

IME young people mostly hate AI.

kilroy123 5mo ago

The young kids I know who are into tech love AI. Albeit this is from a small sample size.

DaSHacka 5mo ago
Funnily enough, most of the young people I know fall somewhere between those two sides of the spectrum. I know some actual luddite-tier AI haters that believe it's ontologically evil, and another majoring in Data Science that went to the most recent career fair and told a recruiter "AI will replace you" (I uh don't think he's getting that internship) And of course many, many, others that fall between the two extremes. The one thing we can all agree on, is it makes homework a hell of a lot easier :) (well, except the luddite-types, they refuse to use it in any capacity)
- whatisthiseven 5mo ago
  The biggest irony with telling a recruiter they'll be replaced, is how much easier a data scientist is to replace with LLMs. With their sycophantic nature, execs will eat up whatever "data" the LLMs make up, too.
  - mbbutler 5mo ago
    No, you don't understand. LLMs will never be capable of knowing what questions to ask, only how to ask the questions. /s
- bsenftner 5mo ago
  I'm a member of a political action committee, where I was brought in as an expert in professional media applications of AI. I've got extensive experience using AI tools in the production of well known entertainment properties (think VFX for film and animation.) Anyway, within the political action committee where is a diverse mixture of people, with about 1/5th of them under age 30. The entire under age 30 set are so AI negative, to such an irrational degree, I have been asked to do nothing and offer no advice that incorporates any technology at all. They are so paranoid. In a not really emotional discussion, a bunch of them erupted in tears, they are so irrational about it.
  - arjie 5mo ago
    Are you able to share whether the PAC was Democratic Party or Republican Party aligned? When I first came to America, the headlines were about how Obama’s campaign embraced tech successfully. By now, tech is considered right-wing. If the young ‘uns who burst into tears were on a Republican aligned PAC that would be interesting. It would mean cross-political tech angst.
    - bsenftner 5mo ago
      Democratic Party.
mrguyorama 5mo ago
What does "into tech" even mean at this point? Watching LTT all day? Playing on their iPhones constantly? Buying wireless earbuds?

bakugo 5mo ago

Do they really? Hating on AI slop is a common sentiment on social media, but remember that the opinions you see on social media are often not representative of what the general population thinks at all. I keep hearing stories about how homework is now useless because every student just gets ChatGPT to do it for them, and from personal experience, I'm inclined to believe them.

8organicbits 5mo ago
> every student just gets ChatGPT to do it I don't believe every student uses a calculator to solve their math homework, so what makes ChatGPT unique here? For certain subjects the ability to cheat has been trivial for a long time, yet there was no crisis.
- sfink 5mo ago
  The children have long had sticks and stones, so why is everyone so freaked out now that they're all carrying around grenade launchers? What kind of math homework has been trivial to solve with a calculator? I guess you're referring to elementary school arithmetic?
  - 8organicbits 5mo ago
    I don't follow the analogy. When I was in high school a classmate did their chemistry homework by buying the teachers edition of the textbook, which had the answer key. The whole class knew this trick existed, but most of us slogged through the work manually. I knew another group who divided up the homework problems and then combined. Students have always known how to cheat on homework, but enough students actually do it anyway. What makes ChatGPT unique here?

archargelod 5mo ago

Young people love AI when it helps them cheat homework, or when used for roleplay and memes. Generating "content" with AI - is generally more hated, especially art and video.

austin-cheney 5mo ago
Sounds hypocritical.
- tokai 5mo ago
  I hate knives cause they kill people, but I love my kitchen knife when I make dinner.
  - austin-cheney 5mo ago
    That is a bad counter-example, because its just a poorly conceived statement. You apparently don't hate knives. You hate killing people, which isn't remotely similar. Using AI to cheat at academics and then hating on people who use AI to cheat on media creation is absolutely hypocritical. Its qualifying hypocritical stupidity like this results in shoving a single vendor's LLM into the browser. If that's still too complicated then just call it complexity - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_complexity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_complexity