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you don't need crazy range to fly between jfk and city . it's doable to do it today, economically, and solve tons of problems . in a similar to ev rollout: s

• walrus01 5mo ago
  JFK and city is a relatively niche and regionally unique market compared to how short/medium range aircraft are used in general. For instance the Joby or Archer product right now wouldn't have the range to fly from a helipad on the Seattle waterfront to somewhere in the San Juan Islands. Or for a flight from Vancouver harbour to Victoria.
  • maxdo 5mo ago
    it's every airport in every city. In new york only you have 3 airports. its a 200k+ a day traffic.
• tqi 5mo ago
  > solve tons of problems I'm skeptical that air taxis could ever meaningfully reduce traffic congestion to / from JFK. Compared to cars, these would seem to require a significantly larger landing pad and passenger unloading space and need much more safety margin in-between drop offs. Maybe this is competitive vs the private helicopter market?
  • maxdo 5mo ago
    travel time is 5-10 mins with 40 mins to 2hours. Yes, it is better compared to helicopter. cheaper, less noise. e.g. you can place it more applications, for less money.
    • tqi 5mo ago
      Well it's 5-10 minutes once you get to the west 30th st heliport, which can easily take 20 minutes within Manhattan. Plus getting loaded in, cleared for takeoff, and potential for backups at the landing pads, I suspect the gains are much less in practice.
      • youngtaff 5mo ago
        How long does it take to get from a helipad to the terminals at JFK?
  • Archonical 5mo ago
    I wonder what % of traffic is to/from JFK. The subway decently connects much of the city to the JFK air train, but it's a fairly inconvenient journey. Toronto's UP express has made travel to YYZ significantly easier, but I doubt it's possible to construct something similar in NYC. I love aviation, but I also don't see air travel as being a scalable/affordable solution to this problem. Then again, it's only meant to alleviate traffic burden for a certain segment of the population.
    • maxdo 5mo ago
      the problem with train it stops ... on every train stop. New york specifically, there are several networks(new jersey, mta, there are lines that are 100+ years old. In general if you have an affordable enough option you'd never walk into subway, with your several luggages, to travel longer. Train is a decent plan b.
      • JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
        > if you have an affordable enough option you'd never walk into subway, with your several luggages, to travel longer I'm moderately wealthy and lived in New York for a decade. I take the train between JFK and Manhattan. (Specifically, the LIRR.) It's faster, more reliable and–for me–more comfortable than taking a car. (It's also safer.) If I have my cat with me or I feel like having fun, I'll take a Blade, but that's realistically only shaving like 20 minutes off the travel time.
        • maxdo 5mo ago
          LIRR is not a dirty MTA train :) Noisy shaky helicopter is not an electric taxi with 6+ motors that gives you more stability with way less noise that flies after take of using wings. Cars for sure are less convenient.
          • JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
            > LIRR is not a dirty MTA train :) Noisy shaky helicopter is not an electric taxi with 6+ motors that gives you more stability with way less noise that flies after take of using wings I've also taken the A from Harlem to JFK once. It was fine. Tougher to read a book, like I can on the LIRR, mostly because the frequency of stops means having to constantly be aware of your belongings. And agree on helicopters. We already have helicopters. Switching them to eVTOLs is a move forward.
• onetokeoverthe 5mo ago
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