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You realize we're talking about a product that is currently free, right? Neither of us have any insight into the margins of their paid offering. All this means

by mh- 6mo ago

You realize we're talking about a product that is currently free, right? Neither of us have any insight into the margins of their paid offering. All this means is: we have a free offering that we can't figure out another way to monetize right now. We can each draw our own conclusions about what that might mean for the state of their business, but all of the other inferences (ha) in this thread are conjecture.

hattmall 6mo ago
Presumably the way to monetize a free tier is by converting them into paying users.
- conductr 6mo ago
  “Upgrade for an Ad free experience” will certainly be a part of it.
Dylan16807 6mo ago
> You realize we're talking about a product that is currently free, right? Neither of us have any insight into the margins of their paid offering. I don't see how that changes the analysis. > All this means is: we have a free offering that we can't figure out another way to monetize right now. And they're doing something they significantly don't want to do to monetize it. Either they fully changed their mind, or the money is somewhat important, or they're utterly crazy. The first is unlikely, the last is unlikely, the middle one is enough for a casual "strapped for cash". It's a very minor conjecture. Actions aren't taken for no reason.
- mh- 6mo ago
  If we can agree that "strapped for cash" also includes "not stupid with cash", I think we're on the same page here. :) (For all I know they are strapped for cash, to be clear; I just don't think the quote says that.)
  - Dylan16807 6mo ago
    Going with a last resort implies more than "not stupid".
    - mh- 6mo ago
      Okay, fine: "conservative with cash" or even "tight with spending"? (I'm not sure how much deeper HN threads can nest.)
      - Dylan16807 6mo ago
        "Tight" gets pretty close to "strapped", especially when it comes to making a change. (They can go super deep if people are committed.)
        mh- 6mo ago
        I concede. (Haha, ok, let's call a truce here before we break HN! Appreciate the conversation.)

by mh- 6mo ago

hattmall 6mo ago

Presumably the way to monetize a free tier is by converting them into paying users.

conductr 6mo ago
“Upgrade for an Ad free experience” will certainly be a part of it.

Dylan16807 6mo ago

> You realize we're talking about a product that is currently free, right? Neither of us have any insight into the margins of their paid offering. I don't see how that changes the analysis. > All this means is: we have a free offering that we can't figure out another way to monetize right now. And they're doing something they significantly don't want to do to monetize it. Either they fully changed their mind, or the money is somewhat important, or they're utterly crazy. The first is unlikely, the last is unlikely, the middle one is enough for a casual "strapped for cash". It's a very minor conjecture. Actions aren't taken for no reason.

mh- 6mo ago
If we can agree that "strapped for cash" also includes "not stupid with cash", I think we're on the same page here. :) (For all I know they are strapped for cash, to be clear; I just don't think the quote says that.)
- Dylan16807 6mo ago
  Going with a last resort implies more than "not stupid".
  - mh- 6mo ago
    Okay, fine: "conservative with cash" or even "tight with spending"? (I'm not sure how much deeper HN threads can nest.)
    - Dylan16807 6mo ago
      "Tight" gets pretty close to "strapped", especially when it comes to making a change. (They can go super deep if people are committed.)
      - mh- 6mo ago
        I concede. (Haha, ok, let's call a truce here before we break HN! Appreciate the conversation.)