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The thing they are really wildly behind on is a business model. They are losing wild amounts of money per customer and it is hard to see how the competitive si

The thing they are really wildly behind on is a business model. They are losing wild amounts of money per customer and it is hard to see how the competitive situation is going to allow them to fix that.

echelon 6mo ago
Given the scaling hurdles Claude Code / Opus is having, those Anthropic customers might leave to Codex. I'm _this_ close.
- ribosometronome 6mo ago
  What would be subscription customers, no? Rather than Bedrock or per-api customers? Many of the companies running on Bedrock or by-use have per day limits above the max monthly subscription costs.
- epistasis 6mo ago
  I'm getting pretty close too, but I wouldn't switch to Codex I'd switch to one of the open agents that can use any backing LLM. My reasoning is that if I'm willing to pay the cost of the small changes in usage, I might as well switch to an open source agent that I can add my own convenience features to, like remote sessions and phone-based operation.
  - jfkimmes 6mo ago
    Codex is open source and allows any model to be configured.
    - epistasis 6mo ago
      Many thanks for that info!
    - bossyTeacher 6mo ago
      Why Codex when you can use something that hasn't been touched by Sam Altman? Surely, your drive to get the very best model isn't stronger than your sense of ethics?
    - NamlchakKhandro 6mo ago
      Codex is not open source. And it's not even that extensible
      - milkshakes 6mo ago
        https://github.com/openai/codex https://github.com/openai/codex
      - deleted 6mo ago
        [deleted]
  - InvidFlower 6mo ago
    For the topic of remote control, Happy seems to be working pretty well for Claude Code but is also supposed to support Codex. It's a bit rough around the edges, but nice that it is open source: https://github.com/slopus/happy https://github.com/slopus/happy
- jwilliams 6mo ago
  Codex is pretty good. Its friction to switch but I think it’s sensible being across multiple AI toolchains.
  - NamlchakKhandro 6mo ago
    Pi mono. Nuff said
    - unrelat3d 6mo ago
      This is what I use now after testing others through 2025 It has the most "UNIX" feel of a simple app that you compose the just right flow from and nothing more
  - felixgallo 6mo ago
    Thing is, if you're using Codex, you're supporting Sam Altman and the idea of Sam Altmans, in the same way that if you use X or buy a Tesla, you're supporting Elon Musk and the idea of Elon Musks. That's a pretty big tax to factor into the usage of such products. If you even got 5% better coding results, would that make up for the future they're trying to build?
    - xienze 6mo ago
      Dario wants to replace you with AI as well. Don't be fooled into thinking he's your friend because he said no to Trump that one time. I'll remind you that Musk used to be the left's hero not too long ago.
      - felixgallo 6mo ago
        I'm in the "AI could be good for humanity" camp, and in this camp, we believe that Dario/Anthropic is a radically better choice going forward than the alternatives at this moment. In this camp we are not 'fooled into thinking he's our friend because he said no to Trump that one time', we are evaluating the entire set of available information and figuring that Anthropic's the best bet. As for Musk ever being "the left"'s "hero" -- that's amazing, that's what Pauli would call 'not even wrong'.
- InvidFlower 6mo ago
  Given the topic of this article, we've been using Claude Code pointed at Bedrock and have never had any scaling issues. Obviously it is more expensive paying by the token than a monthly plan, but I sometimes have 2 or 3 instances chugging along with Opus 4.7 or Sonnet 4.6 and have never had it be down or error out due to usage limits.

echelon 6mo ago

Given the scaling hurdles Claude Code / Opus is having, those Anthropic customers might leave to Codex. I'm _this_ close.

ribosometronome 6mo ago
What would be subscription customers, no? Rather than Bedrock or per-api customers? Many of the companies running on Bedrock or by-use have per day limits above the max monthly subscription costs.
epistasis 6mo ago
I'm getting pretty close too, but I wouldn't switch to Codex I'd switch to one of the open agents that can use any backing LLM. My reasoning is that if I'm willing to pay the cost of the small changes in usage, I might as well switch to an open source agent that I can add my own convenience features to, like remote sessions and phone-based operation.
- jfkimmes 6mo ago
  Codex is open source and allows any model to be configured.
  - epistasis 6mo ago
    Many thanks for that info!
  - bossyTeacher 6mo ago
    Why Codex when you can use something that hasn't been touched by Sam Altman? Surely, your drive to get the very best model isn't stronger than your sense of ethics?
  - NamlchakKhandro 6mo ago
    Codex is not open source. And it's not even that extensible
    - milkshakes 6mo ago
      https://github.com/openai/codex https://github.com/openai/codex
    - deleted 6mo ago
      [deleted]
- InvidFlower 6mo ago
  For the topic of remote control, Happy seems to be working pretty well for Claude Code but is also supposed to support Codex. It's a bit rough around the edges, but nice that it is open source: https://github.com/slopus/happy https://github.com/slopus/happy
jwilliams 6mo ago
Codex is pretty good. Its friction to switch but I think it’s sensible being across multiple AI toolchains.
- NamlchakKhandro 6mo ago
  Pi mono. Nuff said
  - unrelat3d 6mo ago
    This is what I use now after testing others through 2025 It has the most "UNIX" feel of a simple app that you compose the just right flow from and nothing more
- felixgallo 6mo ago
  Thing is, if you're using Codex, you're supporting Sam Altman and the idea of Sam Altmans, in the same way that if you use X or buy a Tesla, you're supporting Elon Musk and the idea of Elon Musks. That's a pretty big tax to factor into the usage of such products. If you even got 5% better coding results, would that make up for the future they're trying to build?
  - xienze 6mo ago
    Dario wants to replace you with AI as well. Don't be fooled into thinking he's your friend because he said no to Trump that one time. I'll remind you that Musk used to be the left's hero not too long ago.
    - felixgallo 6mo ago
      I'm in the "AI could be good for humanity" camp, and in this camp, we believe that Dario/Anthropic is a radically better choice going forward than the alternatives at this moment. In this camp we are not 'fooled into thinking he's our friend because he said no to Trump that one time', we are evaluating the entire set of available information and figuring that Anthropic's the best bet. As for Musk ever being "the left"'s "hero" -- that's amazing, that's what Pauli would call 'not even wrong'.
InvidFlower 6mo ago
Given the topic of this article, we've been using Claude Code pointed at Bedrock and have never had any scaling issues. Obviously it is more expensive paying by the token than a monthly plan, but I sometimes have 2 or 3 instances chugging along with Opus 4.7 or Sonnet 4.6 and have never had it be down or error out due to usage limits.