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I am skeptical there is any customer benefit from unionization and it makes me concerned that MTG Arena might not be around for long term. As a big customer, I
by spullara 6mo ago
I am skeptical there is any customer benefit from unionization and it makes me concerned that MTG Arena might not be around for long term. As a big customer, I am worried about my investment in the platform with this announcement. MTGO still exists, I wish it had a better client.
- sabedevops 6mo agoStability of development, features etc is to the customer's benefit.
- tjwebbnorfolk 6mo agoHave Magic customers been clamoring for Magic's employees to unionize for the past 30 years? This benefit you purport strikes me as purely hypothetical and possibly wrong: if they can't downsize when they need to, they could go out of business completely.
- Timon3 6mo agoUnions don't prevent downsizing when it is actually necessary. What they do prevent is downsizing to goose the stock price, and that is good for the customer.
- tjwebbnorfolk 6mo agoGM circa 2008 would like to have a word
- Timon3 6mo agoI'm afraid I'm not familiar with the specifics. Can you link clear proof that unions were preventing necessary downsizing, and that this downsizing would have saved the company?
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- tjwebbnorfolk 6mo agoIt's likewise confusing when people think unions are always A Good Thing no matter what in all circumstances. I'm glad the employees are exercising their rights to organize. Whether this turns out to be good for the business and for customers remains to be seen over time.
- BizarroLand 6mo agoAny time people want to unionize, it's good for the customers even if it means the business goes under. Sure, they won't get to be customers any longer if that happens, but at least it will increase the likelihood that the products they have available are not the cause of other people's suffering.
- tjwebbnorfolk 5mo ago> it's good for the customers even if it means the business goes under Ok then I'm just not flexible enough to do the mental gymnastics involved in understanding this statement.
- BizarroLand 5mo agoPretty simple. If the only way McDonalds could make burgers to sell you was by abusing farm animals to do it, in manners far in excess of modern farming practices, wouldn't you agree that it is better that McDonald's went out of business? I feel that way about any business that can only survive by underpaying their employees. I would rather have the business not exist than to enjoy affordable goods that only exist because of excessive exploitation.
- nonethewiser 6mo agoYou say he's a bot because he's suspicious of unions, yet you acknowledge plenty of tech people are suspicious of unions. Seems like you dont think he's a bot at all and you're just trying to delegitimize his viewpoint without actually confronting it.
- awesome_dude 6mo agoUnions rarely form because everyone is being treated well (humanely) and/or paid appropriately. The extreme is, are you only happy when your products are created in sweatshops, or, worse, by slaves?
- spullara 6mo agosince some of their gripes are "use ai" and "rto" I don't think we are talking about a sweatshop.
- advisedwang 6mo ago> I am skeptical there is any customer benefit Unions aren't really there for customer service. Nonetheless, there's often times where the worker demand benefit customers too: Nurses fight for better nurse:patient ratios, benefiting patients too; teachers fight for the resources for them to teach well; starbucks baristas fight for a work pace that allows them to actually engage customers like the brand used to offer. etc