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Time Machine support is also dropping support over SMB1 so whatever new solution needs to support SMB2/3.

by giantrobot 6mo ago

stackskipton 6mo ago
SMB2 came out with Vista and SMB3 was Win8 so they are not new protocols either.
- winocm 6mo ago
  That just ended up inadvertently reminding me, Windows Vista is actually almost old enough to be at the minimum legal drinking age in the US. Windows 8 is nearly a decade and a half old as well. Time really does fly.
wtallis 6mo ago
Where "new" in this case could be a NAS running Samba from 2011? Samba added official support for Time Machine much later, but I think it was possible on earlier versions with some extra steps.
- throw0101c 6mo ago
  Samba 4.8 from 2018: * https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.8.0.html https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.8.0.html ("vfs_fruit") * https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Configure_Samba_to_Work_Better_with_Mac_OS_X https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Configure_Samba_to_Work_Bet...
  - wtallis 6mo ago
    That's when Samba gained official easy to use support for being used with Time Machine. I'm pretty sure it was possible long before then, IIRC by changing a setting on the Mac to allow selecting unsupported network volumes. I don't recall when I stopped running netatalk on my NAS and switched to pure Samba, but I think it was before 2018.
- giantrobot 6mo ago
  I only meant new as in someone currently owns a Time Capsule and has to replace it with something "new" that supports newer SMB versions.
  - lproven 5mo ago
    Don't worry, you're good. https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB
Melatonic 6mo ago
SMB1 has major security issues but even those ignored (which a lot of people on private home networks shouldn't be too worried about) it's also slow as hell on MacOS
- riffic 6mo ago
  > people on private home networks shouldn't be too worried about philosophically I would beg to differ about any premise assuming we can trust the castle and moat model. Even on home networks.
  - fragmede 6mo ago
    philosophically, it depends on who you are. If you're Sam Altman or Vitalik Buterin, yeah, your private home network should be considered to be under attack by hostiles trying to steal from you, but for the rest of us, the NSA isn't going to make an international incident trying to get at your Plex server.
    - Gigachad 6mo ago
      For the rest of us we have IoT devices and guests malware filled devices constantly probing the internal network.
jychang 6mo ago
I've added support for Samba 4 (running SMB3) to the Time Capsule so it can work with modern macOS: https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB

Time Machine support is also dropping support over SMB1 so whatever new solution needs to support SMB2/3.

stackskipton 6mo ago

SMB2 came out with Vista and SMB3 was Win8 so they are not new protocols either.

winocm 6mo ago
That just ended up inadvertently reminding me, Windows Vista is actually almost old enough to be at the minimum legal drinking age in the US. Windows 8 is nearly a decade and a half old as well. Time really does fly.

wtallis 6mo ago

Where "new" in this case could be a NAS running Samba from 2011? Samba added official support for Time Machine much later, but I think it was possible on earlier versions with some extra steps.

throw0101c 6mo ago
Samba 4.8 from 2018: * https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.8.0.html https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.8.0.html ("vfs_fruit") * https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Configure_Samba_to_Work_Better_with_Mac_OS_X https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Configure_Samba_to_Work_Bet...
- wtallis 6mo ago
  That's when Samba gained official easy to use support for being used with Time Machine. I'm pretty sure it was possible long before then, IIRC by changing a setting on the Mac to allow selecting unsupported network volumes. I don't recall when I stopped running netatalk on my NAS and switched to pure Samba, but I think it was before 2018.
giantrobot 6mo ago
I only meant new as in someone currently owns a Time Capsule and has to replace it with something "new" that supports newer SMB versions.
- lproven 5mo ago
  Don't worry, you're good. https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB

Melatonic 6mo ago

SMB1 has major security issues but even those ignored (which a lot of people on private home networks shouldn't be too worried about) it's also slow as hell on MacOS

riffic 6mo ago
> people on private home networks shouldn't be too worried about philosophically I would beg to differ about any premise assuming we can trust the castle and moat model. Even on home networks.
- fragmede 6mo ago
  philosophically, it depends on who you are. If you're Sam Altman or Vitalik Buterin, yeah, your private home network should be considered to be under attack by hostiles trying to steal from you, but for the rest of us, the NSA isn't going to make an international incident trying to get at your Plex server.
  - Gigachad 6mo ago
    For the rest of us we have IoT devices and guests malware filled devices constantly probing the internal network.

jychang 6mo ago

I've added support for Samba 4 (running SMB3) to the Time Capsule so it can work with modern macOS: https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB https://github.com/jamesyc/TimeCapsuleSMB