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> They redefined AGI to be an economical thing Huh. Source? I mean, typical OpenAI bullshit, but would love to know how they defined it.

binary0010 7mo ago
OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI)—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work—benefits all of humanity From: https://openai.com/charter/ https://openai.com/charter/
- freejazz 7mo ago
  Marketing
  - binary0010 7mo ago
    I'm so confused why I was down voted for answering the question that was asked?
    - benterix 7mo ago
      Because 1) your answer had nothing to do with the question, 2) you quoted a slogan that life verified as false.
      - binary0010 7mo ago
        [flagged]
        JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
        > They redefined AGI to be an economical thing Huh. Source? I don't think your original comment deserve to be downvoted. (Calling someone illiterate, on the other hand.) But the "it" I was asking about was "AGI" as "an economical thing." You technically correctly answered how OpenAI defines AGI in public, i.e. with no reference to profits. But it did not address the economic definition OP initially alluded to. For what it's worth, I could have been clearer in my ask.
        binary0010 7mo ago
        Yeah I deserve to be down voted for the last message no doubt on that lol. But originally I was just trying to be helpful by quoting their charter on what they consider "agi" now.
        benterix 7mo ago
        The question was about their redefinition of AGI in economical terms for which others provided links, not the one from their (obviously fake) mission statement. BTW I didn't downwote you (I hate it, if many people downvote a comment it's harder to read), I was just trying to explain why others did. On second thought, my comment was wrong, because your answer was related to the question but it wasn't really the intended one.
- ahoka 7mo ago
  AGI is when the capitalists are not forced to share their profits with the intelligentsia.
- Fomite 7mo ago
  All humanity will benefit, but some humanity will benefit more than others.
  - red-iron-pine 7mo ago
    i am highly skeptical "all" of humanity will benefit, and many will have extreme negatives. if you think drone targeting in Ukraine is scary now, wait until AGI is on it... ditto for exploiting vulns via mythos
- rvz 7mo ago
  Translation: IPO.
a2128 7mo ago
Around the end of 2024, it was reported that OpenAI and Microsoft agreed that for the purposes of their exclusivity agreement, AGI will be achieved when their AI system generates $100 billion in profit: https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-a-financial-definition-of-agi-report/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-...
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
  > OpenAI and Microsoft agreed that for the purposes of their exclusivity agreement, AGI will be achieved when their AI system generates $100 billion in profit Wow. Maybe they spelled it out as aggregate gross income :P.
- bena 7mo ago
  So no human on Earth is intelligent by that metric.
  - aleph_minus_one 7mo ago
    > So no human on Earth is intelligent by that metric. That's a relevent aspect of the AGI concept.
- gowld 7mo ago
  Companies that have created "AGI": Apple, Alphabet, Amazon, NVIDIA, Samsung, Intel, Cisco, Pfizer, UnitedHealth , Procter & Gamble, Berkshire Hathaway, China Construction Bank, Wells Fargo, ...
  - AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
    For some definition of Artificial this holds perfectly A self-running massive corporation with no people that generates billions in profit, no matter what you call it, would completely upend all previous structural assumptions under capitalism
  - 9rx 7mo ago
    Those were all achieved by "GI".
wrs 7mo ago
It’s a system that generates $100 billion in profit. [0] [0] https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-a-financial-definition-of-agi-report/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-...
- pigeons 7mo ago
  Are there inflation markers included?
rvz 7mo ago
Here's the sauce you requested: [0] "OpenAI has only achieved AGI when it develops AI systems that can generate at least $100 billion in profits." Given that the definition of AGI is beyond meaningless, it is clear that the "I" in AGI stands for IPO. [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-openai-financial-definition-agi-171602910.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-openai-financial-de...

binary0010 7mo ago

OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI)—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work—benefits all of humanity From: https://openai.com/charter/ https://openai.com/charter/

freejazz 7mo ago
Marketing
- binary0010 7mo ago
  I'm so confused why I was down voted for answering the question that was asked?
  - benterix 7mo ago
    Because 1) your answer had nothing to do with the question, 2) you quoted a slogan that life verified as false.
    - binary0010 7mo ago
      [flagged]
      - JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
        > They redefined AGI to be an economical thing Huh. Source? I don't think your original comment deserve to be downvoted. (Calling someone illiterate, on the other hand.) But the "it" I was asking about was "AGI" as "an economical thing." You technically correctly answered how OpenAI defines AGI in public, i.e. with no reference to profits. But it did not address the economic definition OP initially alluded to. For what it's worth, I could have been clearer in my ask.
        binary0010 7mo ago
        Yeah I deserve to be down voted for the last message no doubt on that lol. But originally I was just trying to be helpful by quoting their charter on what they consider "agi" now.
      - benterix 7mo ago
        The question was about their redefinition of AGI in economical terms for which others provided links, not the one from their (obviously fake) mission statement. BTW I didn't downwote you (I hate it, if many people downvote a comment it's harder to read), I was just trying to explain why others did. On second thought, my comment was wrong, because your answer was related to the question but it wasn't really the intended one.
ahoka 7mo ago
AGI is when the capitalists are not forced to share their profits with the intelligentsia.
Fomite 7mo ago
All humanity will benefit, but some humanity will benefit more than others.
- red-iron-pine 7mo ago
  i am highly skeptical "all" of humanity will benefit, and many will have extreme negatives. if you think drone targeting in Ukraine is scary now, wait until AGI is on it... ditto for exploiting vulns via mythos
rvz 7mo ago
Translation: IPO.

a2128 7mo ago

Around the end of 2024, it was reported that OpenAI and Microsoft agreed that for the purposes of their exclusivity agreement, AGI will be achieved when their AI system generates $100 billion in profit: https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-a-financial-definition-of-agi-report/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-...

JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
> OpenAI and Microsoft agreed that for the purposes of their exclusivity agreement, AGI will be achieved when their AI system generates $100 billion in profit Wow. Maybe they spelled it out as aggregate gross income :P.
bena 7mo ago
So no human on Earth is intelligent by that metric.
- aleph_minus_one 7mo ago
  > So no human on Earth is intelligent by that metric. That's a relevent aspect of the AGI concept.
gowld 7mo ago
Companies that have created "AGI": Apple, Alphabet, Amazon, NVIDIA, Samsung, Intel, Cisco, Pfizer, UnitedHealth , Procter & Gamble, Berkshire Hathaway, China Construction Bank, Wells Fargo, ...
- AndrewKemendo 7mo ago
  For some definition of Artificial this holds perfectly A self-running massive corporation with no people that generates billions in profit, no matter what you call it, would completely upend all previous structural assumptions under capitalism
- 9rx 7mo ago
  Those were all achieved by "GI".

wrs 7mo ago

It’s a system that generates $100 billion in profit. [0] [0] https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-a-financial-definition-of-agi-report/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-...

pigeons 7mo ago
Are there inflation markers included?

rvz 7mo ago

Here's the sauce you requested: [0] "OpenAI has only achieved AGI when it develops AI systems that can generate at least $100 billion in profits." Given that the definition of AGI is beyond meaningless, it is clear that the "I" in AGI stands for IPO. [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-openai-financial-definition-agi-171602910.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-openai-financial-de...