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And then slow rolled support. And then flat out lied that they received "the correct" documentation justifying the transfer when they hadn't received any docum
by gpm 6mo ago
And then slow rolled support.
And then flat out lied that they received "the correct" documentation justifying the transfer when they hadn't received any documentation, and denied the appeal.
Frankly the whole thing is inexplicable. The best explanation is fraudulent business practices to save 60 seconds of looking for the documentation.
- nine_k 6mo agoWith all the publicity GoDaddy has received over the last 10 years or so, I wonder why anybody reasonable would deal with them any more. Maybe the prices are irresistibly low, IDK.
- 0_-_0 6mo agothey are not inexplicably low -- any rational person sees that any low prices are one year intro deals that revert to excessive after the first year. We have always hated working with them, and have moved all clients to cloudflare.
- gzread 6mo agoYou moved from the worst registrar to the second worst registrar. Cloudflare will call you up one day demanding an immediate payment of $150k and holding your domains hostage if you don't comply.
- kirubakaran 6mo agoThat's worrying. My search-fu is failing me. Link please.
- Silhouette 6mo agoCloudflare will call you up one day demanding an immediate payment of $150k and holding your domains hostage if you don't comply. [citation very much needed]
- vetrom 6mo agohttps://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-website https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web... - one of a number of citations. To find more insert the terms [Cloudflare, hostage] into your favorite search engine.
- Silhouette 6mo agoWhatever was really happening in that incident it seems clear that it was not a simple matter of having registered some domains with Cloudflare and then getting a shakedown for $100k+ because of that. If anyone else chooses to read the post then I suggest skimming the comments (that are mostly hidden by default) as well.
- vetrom 6mo agoThe point isnt the apologists that pop up whereever CF gets mentioned, the point is that they more or less have a built reputation for deceptive loss leader marketing. Maybe early/MVP product engineers should know better, but CFs own education materials do not teach you to expect that.
- otterley 6mo agoIf something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
- Silhouette 6mo agoI have no financial or professional connection to Cloudflare as far as I know and that's partly because I'm not sure I like the way they operate and the level of control over everyone's access to the Web they now have. But if we're going to criticise then I think it should be on a reasonable and preferably objective basis. The claim I challenged appears to be the complete opposite of that unfortunately.
- ErroneousBosh 6mo ago> Whatever was really happening in that incident it seems clear that ... CF for all their faults probably weren't the bad guy, when they discovered a "customer" absolutely taking the piss with capacity and doing incredibly sketchy things with domains to get around regulatory issues. I have a courtesy hire car from a breakdown service at the moment with "unlimited mileage". I suspect they mean "unlimited mileage doing the sort of thing you do normally", and that "Unlimited, cool, I'm driving this thing from Scotland to Dagestan" would be met with opposition and a large invoice.
- mixologic 6mo agoYeah, thats FUD. Cloudflare hasnt called anybody demanding huge sums of cash and holding your domains hostage. As a registrar they're fine, dont play scammy scum upsell games (because they have a real business model that isnt just registration skim).
- fragmede 6mo agoIsn't that exactly what https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-website https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web... purports happened?
- A_D_E_P_T 6mo agoFor me, it's Namecheap.
- JoBrad 6mo agoCloudflare isn’t anywhere near being the second worst registrar. I’ve never had anything remotely similar to this occur, and I’ve had hundreds of domains with Cloudflare for years.
- boscillator 6mo agoThey show up as the #2 ad spot when you search "register a domain" and most people don't know any better.
- tedggh 6mo agoI was done with them the day I knew their founder and CEO bribed corrupt African governments to go kill elephants, pose for pictures and share them with family and friends. I hunt and fish, but there’s something particularly evil about spending a fortune to abuse broken systems in poor nations to go after one of the most social species on earth, which are also known for having a strong awareness of death.
- saddist0 6mo agoWhat are the good alternatives? In domain business, everyone like a service which has lived for decades. GoDaddy being the one helps a lot. I love Cloudflare for my .com domains but they don’t support a lot of TLDs till date.
- nine_k 6mo agoIf you prefer to use a service that's been around for a really long time, Network Solutions will happily sell you a domain! (Maybe Tucows, too; their domain-registering arm is now called OpenSRS, it appears.)
- _carbyau_ 6mo agoPorkbun.com Been around since 2015. You decide if that's long enough. For my extremely simple needs, the website is domain name magic for a plain customer wanting a plain service.
- nofriend 6mo agoThe bad publicity is all in tech spaces and they do ads IRL.