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Looks very interesting, but i’m a bit surprised the most important feature isn’t mentioned: How well does clipboard sharing work?

d3Xt3r 6mo ago
And desktop scaling. And multi-monitor support. And file transfers. And drive redirection. And peripheral redirection. And...
- rvz 6mo ago
  ...A test suite, And security audits, And most importantly benchmarks. What it does have is a license which it is GPLv3. So if anyone adds all those changes, they have to make the source code available with the same software license.
  - pixel_popping 6mo ago
    In this era tho, licenses (I don't agree with this, but this is what it is) are a matter of "tokens", I speak for a fact knowing multiple relatively-big companies just gobbling GPLv3 projects and rewriting them entirely, some do publish them as well.
wcrossbow 6mo ago
Im not a big fan of Windows but copy pasting a file across 3 nested RDP sessions feels magical every time
- ktpsns 6mo ago
  To be honest, three nested RDPs sound like a terrible hack. In an ideal world, this would be two port forwardings and one RDP (thinking about ssh, which is still underrepresented in windows world). In an even more ideal world, this would be an IPv6 direct access ;-)
  - everforward 6mo ago
    There are legit reasons, at least for two nested sessions. A production network that’s airgapped except for a bastion host that acts as a gateway. It’s better than port forwarding because you have to auth to the bastion host before the RDP chaining, and it often takes separate credentials for the second RDP session. It’s a semi-common setup for higher security environments, and when you have a network of stuff that has known vulnerabilities you can’t patch for whatever reason. Traffic in and out is super carefully firewalled. It’s not great, but it’s better than a 25 year old MySQL with a direct public IP.
    - embedding-shape 6mo ago
      > airgapped except for a bastion host that acts as a gateway First time I've heard of an airgapped system you could access remotely. Doesn't that kind of defeat the label "airgapped"? I think I'd just call that "isolated" at that point instead.
      - rzzzt 6mo ago
        The moat!
      - SigmundA 6mo ago
        Logically air gapped :) https://docs.aws.amazon.com/aws-backup/latest/devguide/logicallyairgappedvault.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/aws-backup/latest/devguide/logic...
        dijit 6mo ago
        AWS likes to redefine things. Air gapped means... there is nothing except air in the gap between systems. A physical tether would defeat it. Now, I pedant could start talking about wifi, but air-gapping is a concept older than the internet. (It stems from plumbing where there's air that prevents back leakage of contamination). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking)
      - 6mo ago
- debarshri 6mo ago
  I am not sure if you have tried broadcasting feature in terminals, thats magical too.
- hypercube33 6mo ago
  It actually doesn't it feels horrible. you can't paste files from a samba share or large ones take so long to copy that they ultimately fail.
debarshri 6mo ago
We have a custom RDP client [1]. So i have some experience building something like this. We do some an implementation similar to this. Clipboard sharing, uploading and downloading via shared drive is a freerdp feature that should be readily available. We also have sessions recording which is non-negotiable in PAM. [1] https://adaptive.live https://adaptive.live

d3Xt3r 6mo ago

And desktop scaling. And multi-monitor support. And file transfers. And drive redirection. And peripheral redirection. And...

rvz 6mo ago
...A test suite, And security audits, And most importantly benchmarks. What it does have is a license which it is GPLv3. So if anyone adds all those changes, they have to make the source code available with the same software license.
- pixel_popping 6mo ago
  In this era tho, licenses (I don't agree with this, but this is what it is) are a matter of "tokens", I speak for a fact knowing multiple relatively-big companies just gobbling GPLv3 projects and rewriting them entirely, some do publish them as well.

wcrossbow 6mo ago

Im not a big fan of Windows but copy pasting a file across 3 nested RDP sessions feels magical every time

ktpsns 6mo ago
To be honest, three nested RDPs sound like a terrible hack. In an ideal world, this would be two port forwardings and one RDP (thinking about ssh, which is still underrepresented in windows world). In an even more ideal world, this would be an IPv6 direct access ;-)
- everforward 6mo ago
  There are legit reasons, at least for two nested sessions. A production network that’s airgapped except for a bastion host that acts as a gateway. It’s better than port forwarding because you have to auth to the bastion host before the RDP chaining, and it often takes separate credentials for the second RDP session. It’s a semi-common setup for higher security environments, and when you have a network of stuff that has known vulnerabilities you can’t patch for whatever reason. Traffic in and out is super carefully firewalled. It’s not great, but it’s better than a 25 year old MySQL with a direct public IP.
  - embedding-shape 6mo ago
    > airgapped except for a bastion host that acts as a gateway First time I've heard of an airgapped system you could access remotely. Doesn't that kind of defeat the label "airgapped"? I think I'd just call that "isolated" at that point instead.
    - rzzzt 6mo ago
      The moat!
    - SigmundA 6mo ago
      Logically air gapped :) https://docs.aws.amazon.com/aws-backup/latest/devguide/logicallyairgappedvault.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/aws-backup/latest/devguide/logic...
      - dijit 6mo ago
        AWS likes to redefine things. Air gapped means... there is nothing except air in the gap between systems. A physical tether would defeat it. Now, I pedant could start talking about wifi, but air-gapping is a concept older than the internet. (It stems from plumbing where there's air that prevents back leakage of contamination). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gap_(networking)
    - 6mo ago
debarshri 6mo ago
I am not sure if you have tried broadcasting feature in terminals, thats magical too.
hypercube33 6mo ago
It actually doesn't it feels horrible. you can't paste files from a samba share or large ones take so long to copy that they ultimately fail.

debarshri 6mo ago

We have a custom RDP client [1]. So i have some experience building something like this. We do some an implementation similar to this. Clipboard sharing, uploading and downloading via shared drive is a freerdp feature that should be readily available. We also have sessions recording which is non-negotiable in PAM. [1] https://adaptive.live https://adaptive.live