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Also, many of us have lived in countries actually freed thanks to the west’s (mustly us) intervention, and we felt the support during the Russian occupation pre
by kolinko 6mo ago
Also, many of us have lived in countries actually freed thanks to the west’s (mustly us) intervention, and we felt the support during the Russian occupation pre 1989
- yaakushi 6mo agoMany of us have lived or live in countries that are constantly affected and destabilized by past and even modern interventions from the U.S. (the only blame the rest of the "West" bears here is just watching without ever acknowledging the harm done). Just look at Latin America. edit: Not trying to say "US bad, China good." Just there is perspective to everything.
- 1234letshaveatw 6mo agoUs? wow, tell us your story
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- glenstein 6mo agoAnd some of us have a sore lower back after playing tennis, while some of us have terminal stage four cancer. Who is to say which is worse? I think right now there's a kind of global propaganda competition playing out and the thing that does the most damage is false equivalences that encourage loss of perspective.
- mlnj 6mo agoThe only instance of false equivalence I see is the mention of lower back pain vs cancer.
- meowkit 6mo agoYou cant compare qualia of suffering. At least not with our current technology. Thats the point - they both involve suffering but that doesn’t mean one is inherently worse than the other. The details and experience matter which got glossed over in these stupid debates- hence loss of perspective. Honestly I had to read the wiki page of false equivalence and you’re not asserting the fallacy correctly.
- DoctorOetker 6mo agowe don't need machinery or a mechanism to compare it, natural selection works just fine for 99% of all species on earth.
- CuriouslyC 6mo agoThe US committed massive treaty violations and genocide, on top of huge imperialist destabilization of many sovereign nations. Tianmen square and the Uyghers are bad, but we're straight up evil.
- blackqueeriroh 6mo agoThe Chinese government regularly kidnaps its own citizens, who have no due process rights, and is currently engaged in a mass genocide of a racial group they consider “inferior.” Additionally, they have supported Russia consistently during their occupation of Ukraine, and just install leaders for life. I’m confused how you think the US is worse. I say this as an Afroindigenous person who is very clear about the harms white supremacy has inflicted upon the cultures I am a part of.
- CuriouslyC 6mo agoJust on the genocide scorecard, it's us 0, China 1. Ask a native american what they think of the US govt.
- bdangubic 6mo ago> Additionally, they have supported Russia consistently during their occupation of Ukraine And who are we supporting since roughly 01/2025? :-)
- meloyc 6mo agotell us your story
- xtracto 6mo agoThis is important. Just a couple of days ago we found out that 4 undercover CIA agents were operating here in Mexico: https://www.infobae.com/mexico/2026/04/22/no-eran-dos-eran-cuatro-agentes-de-la-cia-periodista-destapa-presencia-duplicada-en-chihuahua/ https://www.infobae.com/mexico/2026/04/22/no-eran-dos-eran-c... It has been knokwn that US government operatives provide weapons to Mexican cartels ( https://grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=333 https://grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?Document... ). So, yeah, the US is no "blanca palomita" at all. And those of us suffering from their actions have learned that all powerful nations have good and bad things. Here in Mexico, we've got BYD cars, and they are AMAZING. Also being able to use DeepSeek is so cool.
- wayeq 6mo ago> Just a couple of days ago we found out that 4 undercover CIA agents were operating here in Mexico was that a surprise? i'd be more surprised if it were only 4.
- xtracto 6mo agoThey were actually 10 haha, according to the article.
- DoctorOetker 6mo agoIf your government refuses to stop the flow of drugs into the US by addressing cartels don't be surprised if the US delivers weapons to said cartels so they can have some infighting going on. If the mexican government would actually make work of dismantling the organized trade, there would be no incentive to deliver them weapons to shoot each other.
- kolkov 6mo agoHow many not-so-smart and not-so-intelligent people can claim Russia occupied you? Never mind, your liberation by the West will come back to haunt you, mark my words... and very soon! You'll remember how well you lived during the years of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact!
- andriy_koval 6mo agothose countries were liberated 35 years ago, GDP and other essential metrics increased significantly. How longer they should wait to start feeling remorse?
- randomname93857 6mo agoI remember constant grocery deficits, no meat, no cheese, etc in groceries. and all other kind of deficits. But there were rotten potatoes, and 2 types of bread! Glory to our leaders! fun times, you say.
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- jicko 6mo agoChina hasn't been communist for a really long time. It didn't truly stay communist for a long time either, it was more of an authoritarian autarky run by a nutjob. What is is today is state sponsored capitalism. You have cronyism, nepotism, lobbying and rent seeking. All of which are also found in the US. China's social spending is far lower than many other developed nations.
- tensor 6mo agoI see young people advocating for socialism a lot in Canada, but rarely communism as in communist Russia and communist China. As others have said, old style communism isn't even around anymore. Russia is a fake democracy and China is a strange blend of one party rule and capitalism. I don't think it does anyone any good to throw around naive and simple terms like communism. Focus on issues like public healthcare, breaking monopolies, basic incomes, and so on. We'll get along a lot better that way.
- 8note 6mo agocanada has our own history of socialism in the form of crown corps and healthcare. why wouldnt we lean into our own successful practices?
- roenxi 6mo agoBecause they'll make you worse off the more you scale them up. It's like pointing out that a drink of alcohol with a friend led to positive results so why not lean heavily into drinking? And the answer is because it is something that people enjoy that can be tolerated in small amounts but isn't much of a strategy if the goal is a happy, healthy outcome.
- tensor 6mo agoThat's ridiculous. The countries with the highest quality of living all have strong social programs. If you want an analogy for alcoholism look at the US. Capitalism works here, so let's use it everywhere!
- 0x737368 6mo agoAnd which countries are those?
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