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> I do feel this trend in my life. I have a job which I'm grateful for but nothing feels satisfying anymore, and I feel like it is much harder to connect to peo

> I do feel this trend in my life. I have a job which I'm grateful for but nothing feels satisfying anymore, and I feel like it is much harder to connect to people or form deep relationships, especially in this field, unless you already have a clique in your workplace. do you have kids? Family? That is the ancient receipt for a great and happy life.

cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago
Yeah, it was, but now we have AI and there is no future for our kids, so it's even worse.
- NoGravitas 6mo ago
  Yeah. I had kids, but the fact that I can't see a future for them, but have to live as if I do, is crushing.
- pelasaco 6mo ago
  > Yeah, it was, but now we have AI and there is no future for our kids, so it's even worse. what? We went through so many bad periods in our history..is it sarcasm?
  - cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago
    No sarcasm, your reply is insulting. But stupidity, blindness and greed-driven techno-optimism displayed on this site got to a vomit-inducing level recently.
    - r_lee 6mo ago
      agreed. I'm wondering how on earth are people supposed to provide for a family these days? the techno optimism has been absolutely insane. celebrating that people won't have jobs anymore, that robots will be doing everything and that how the human species is just a stepping stone or something and if you resist you're a "specist" (famously said by Larry Page)
    - kakacik 6mo ago
      Don't swing to the extremes, world is a bit bigger than news portals and US ones are beyond toxic regardless of the party favored. Nature is still beautiful, traveling is as enlightening as ever, meeting new cultures, foods, learning real history of the world as you visit places is priceless. Raising kids is hard but extremely rewarding. And so on. Times are not easy, but they are not doomish. Or, every decade there were doomish periods where you could have the same view. every. single. one. How would you feel in late 30s when big part of the world was visibly inching to global war? This is nothing and nobody knows where this current moment will lead us to.
      - cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago
        It's not about news but the reality around me, and I'm not in US but in a country that has an active war on the other side of the eastern border. And it's a war with increasing participation of drones and robots. And at work? Yeah, the clock is ticking, and in this transitory period people seem to be happily ginving up on thinking and their agency. Execs are getting more and more sociopathic. Young people more and more disenganged. The planet is getting worse and worse. At this point I really regret that I brought my kids to life, because I'm pretty sure it will be mostly suffering that they will experience.
        dlivingston 6mo ago
        That is extremely bleak. The story of the human race is a series of good and bad cycles. Right now we are in a bad cycle. It will end. Maybe in 10 years, maybe in 20 years, maybe in 80. But it will. And we need your children & others to carry the torch of our species into the future. Humanity still has many thousands of years of life in us yet.
        NoGravitas 6mo ago
        Rustin Cohle: Think of the hubris it must take to yank a soul out of non existence into this... meat, to force a life into this... thresher. That"s... so my daughter, she spared me the sin of being a father.
mothballed 6mo ago
If you're already happy you should think carefully about having kids though. I was extremely, extremely satisfied with my life before children. My kid is wonderful and healthy but as an introvert I didn't realize just how crushing it is to never get an extended period alone to recharge.
- AnimalMuppet 6mo ago
  You can still get time alone to recharge - maybe not as much as you like, but at least some. The price is, you also have to take the kid solo sometimes, to give your spouse a chance to get alone and recharge. They need it too, even if they aren't as much of an introvert as you are. They may not needs as much, but they probably need some.
- pelasaco 6mo ago
  > If you're already happy you should think carefully about having kids though. Well then you get your 60s and your focus changes. Kids become adults. Family is the true legacy. We didnt come so far as society searching for netflix and chill. > I didn't realize just how crushing it is to never get an extended period alone to recharge. You cannot just relax, because guess what, some human beings depends on you. But yeah, some phases are harder than others.. but thats life.
  - mothballed 6mo ago
    I think it's a bit presumptuous to think I was just relaxing. I was doing stuff like fighting in a foreign civil war and commercial fishing in the Bering Sea. I wasn't really 'relaxing' so much as doing things that are impossible to do without being alone from family. I'm probably an odd ball but those are the sorts of things that 'recharge' me.
    - cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago
      It's not you, it's just the know-it-all guys with proven recipes for happy life are presumptuous.
qwerpy 6mo ago
I had a job, was relatively happy. Then I had kids, less happy due to severe lack of time. Now, have no job and still have my kids. Happiest I’ve ever been.
ButlerianJihad 6mo ago
https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/The-Smiths/Heaven-Knows-I-m-Miserable-Now-2011-Remastered-Version https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/The-Smiths/Heaven-Knows-I-... Two lovers entwined pass me by And Heaven knows I'm miserable now I was looking for a job, and then I found a job And Heaven knows I'm miserable now In my life, oh, why do I give valuable time To people who don't care if I live or die?
kelnos 6mo ago
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cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago

Yeah, it was, but now we have AI and there is no future for our kids, so it's even worse.

NoGravitas 6mo ago
Yeah. I had kids, but the fact that I can't see a future for them, but have to live as if I do, is crushing.
pelasaco 6mo ago
> Yeah, it was, but now we have AI and there is no future for our kids, so it's even worse. what? We went through so many bad periods in our history..is it sarcasm?
- cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago
  No sarcasm, your reply is insulting. But stupidity, blindness and greed-driven techno-optimism displayed on this site got to a vomit-inducing level recently.
  - r_lee 6mo ago
    agreed. I'm wondering how on earth are people supposed to provide for a family these days? the techno optimism has been absolutely insane. celebrating that people won't have jobs anymore, that robots will be doing everything and that how the human species is just a stepping stone or something and if you resist you're a "specist" (famously said by Larry Page)
  - kakacik 6mo ago
    Don't swing to the extremes, world is a bit bigger than news portals and US ones are beyond toxic regardless of the party favored. Nature is still beautiful, traveling is as enlightening as ever, meeting new cultures, foods, learning real history of the world as you visit places is priceless. Raising kids is hard but extremely rewarding. And so on. Times are not easy, but they are not doomish. Or, every decade there were doomish periods where you could have the same view. every. single. one. How would you feel in late 30s when big part of the world was visibly inching to global war? This is nothing and nobody knows where this current moment will lead us to.
    - cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago
      It's not about news but the reality around me, and I'm not in US but in a country that has an active war on the other side of the eastern border. And it's a war with increasing participation of drones and robots. And at work? Yeah, the clock is ticking, and in this transitory period people seem to be happily ginving up on thinking and their agency. Execs are getting more and more sociopathic. Young people more and more disenganged. The planet is getting worse and worse. At this point I really regret that I brought my kids to life, because I'm pretty sure it will be mostly suffering that they will experience.
      - dlivingston 6mo ago
        That is extremely bleak. The story of the human race is a series of good and bad cycles. Right now we are in a bad cycle. It will end. Maybe in 10 years, maybe in 20 years, maybe in 80. But it will. And we need your children & others to carry the torch of our species into the future. Humanity still has many thousands of years of life in us yet.
      - NoGravitas 6mo ago
        Rustin Cohle: Think of the hubris it must take to yank a soul out of non existence into this... meat, to force a life into this... thresher. That"s... so my daughter, she spared me the sin of being a father.

mothballed 6mo ago

If you're already happy you should think carefully about having kids though. I was extremely, extremely satisfied with my life before children. My kid is wonderful and healthy but as an introvert I didn't realize just how crushing it is to never get an extended period alone to recharge.

AnimalMuppet 6mo ago
You can still get time alone to recharge - maybe not as much as you like, but at least some. The price is, you also have to take the kid solo sometimes, to give your spouse a chance to get alone and recharge. They need it too, even if they aren't as much of an introvert as you are. They may not needs as much, but they probably need some.
pelasaco 6mo ago
> If you're already happy you should think carefully about having kids though. Well then you get your 60s and your focus changes. Kids become adults. Family is the true legacy. We didnt come so far as society searching for netflix and chill. > I didn't realize just how crushing it is to never get an extended period alone to recharge. You cannot just relax, because guess what, some human beings depends on you. But yeah, some phases are harder than others.. but thats life.
- mothballed 6mo ago
  I think it's a bit presumptuous to think I was just relaxing. I was doing stuff like fighting in a foreign civil war and commercial fishing in the Bering Sea. I wasn't really 'relaxing' so much as doing things that are impossible to do without being alone from family. I'm probably an odd ball but those are the sorts of things that 'recharge' me.
  - cyclopeanutopia 6mo ago
    It's not you, it's just the know-it-all guys with proven recipes for happy life are presumptuous.

qwerpy 6mo ago

I had a job, was relatively happy. Then I had kids, less happy due to severe lack of time. Now, have no job and still have my kids. Happiest I’ve ever been.

ButlerianJihad 6mo ago

https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/The-Smiths/Heaven-Knows-I-m-Miserable-Now-2011-Remastered-Version https://www.musixmatch.com/lyrics/The-Smiths/Heaven-Knows-I-... Two lovers entwined pass me by And Heaven knows I'm miserable now I was looking for a job, and then I found a job And Heaven knows I'm miserable now In my life, oh, why do I give valuable time To people who don't care if I live or die?

kelnos 6mo ago

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