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> Your users live in Teams. No, I assure you, we do not. Nobody wants to live in hell. Even at my current company, we are mandated solely to use Teams for meet

> Your users live in Teams. No, I assure you, we do not. Nobody wants to live in hell. Even at my current company, we are mandated solely to use Teams for meetings. But nobody uses it for chat. Thankfully we have Slack to save us from that hell. Even if giphy is disabled because it might have R rated content whatever the hell that means.

leosanchez 5mo ago
IMO Only thing good about Teams is Emojis
- biglyburrito 5mo ago
  And yet Slack still does it better
- Jedd 5mo ago
  Do you mean the way that Microsoft hijacked open-parenthesis, and you can't choose a different character to trigger an emoji call?
  - lifescarcity 5mo ago
    https://youtu.be/2PYBj_VhvXg?si=eQogTv825zSyeBvX https://youtu.be/2PYBj_VhvXg?si=eQogTv825zSyeBvX You can use :
    - Jedd 5mo ago
      aha - they've added colon. I notice that ( still goes into emoji mode though. So, the worst of both worlds. I should not be surprised. (And I am not.)
    - vladvasiliu 5mo ago
      Which is extremely practical for French, where the colon comes after a space. So if you want to write an actual colon to introduce a list on the following line, you’ll just input whatever the default smiley is.
- dgan 5mo ago
  Cant wait to look like an idiot after sending a heart to my boss while trying to select the hostname
  - npodbielski 5mo ago
    Maybe he will like it! Who knows?!
- crote 5mo ago
  Except for the fact where their emoji :shortcodes: are different from everyone elses, so if you're not careful you end up looking like a lunatic.
- Phelinofist 5mo ago
  IMHO they are not. Using the shortcodes via () works okay-ish, but open the emoji menu is just awfully slow, it takes a solid 5-8 secs for it to show the emojis not recently used. It's absolute garbage.
- high_na_euv 5mo ago
  Calendar
fuzzzerd 5mo ago
Sounds nice. I've seen places that have essentially given up email in favor of teams for all communication.
- earleybird 5mo ago
  Now add a retention policy of 30 days. Business memory lived in those emails and now it's 50 First Dates
userbinator 5mo ago
Fortunately, there are companies which still use IRC and other entirely-open standards such as SIP for collaborative communication.
SV_BubbleTime 5mo ago
I know it’s NerdCool to hate on Teams, but I really don’t get it. I’m in Linux with portal for teams (electron app)… and it’s fine. Like, we moved to it from slack and I just don’t see much of a difference. I type stuff, and people see it. I set up a call and people join, we talk. What is it that is so broken, or is it just cool to hate?
- minetest2048 5mo ago
  > I type stuff, and people see it I wish... I'm on Windows 11 Enterprise with corporate Teams, definitely 100% Microsoft approved combination and: - on one channel my message never got sent, while on another channel it does work - sometimes when I scrolled up the old messages doesn't show up, with a 'message removed by organization retention policy' text.. but those are messages from yesterday and sometimes when I restarted Teams it shows up again.. sometime it doesn't but when I opened web Teams it does show up - sometime I can't connect to Teams for no reason, restarting Teams and computer doesn't help either, went to the IT helpdesk and they spent several minutes redoing what I did until they just googled it and delete the cookies or something I also used slack and from my perspective its 100% reliable at delivering text messages
  - skirmish 5mo ago
    Flaky Wifi connection? Maybe Slack just retries more, and Teams gives up easily?
    - actionfromafar 5mo ago
      Those are questions Microsoft should ask themselves during testing.
      - skirmish 5mo ago
        Last I heard in the news, Microsoft fired most of their testing teams, so no.
  - noufalibrahim 5mo ago
psnehanshu 5mo ago
Slack is a different kind of hell now with their sales-force
- brianjking 5mo ago
  Bring back Glitch the game! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(video_game)
- maronato 5mo ago
  Now? Salesforce bought Slack almost 6 years ago
m348e912 5mo ago
>> Your users live in Teams. > No, I assure you, we do not This absolutism is tiring. I can assure you there are plenty of companies who use teams as their sole messaging platform. My company uses slack, teams, and zoom. Which one you use the most depends on the person or the team they are on. (Although zoom is being phased out to the chagrin of some folks). Teams isn't without it's issues, it's annoyingly slow, and startup takes so long I have missed a meeting or two because of it. But, the conferencing experience is pretty decent, and I think you're just being contrarian for the sake of it.
- szszrk 5mo ago
  > This absolutism is tiring. What is really tiring is using Teams as a tool to embed other websites. Because that's what "apps" and most other functionalities are. Teams is just a very slow web browser with the worst possible way to manage bookmarks and tabs. You clearly don't have an organization fully onboarded to Teams, as you yourself describe. You use it as a conferencing tool. When you add all the other bloat Teams promotes it becomes a burden that makes me want to come back to sorting thousands of emails with outlook rules.
  - mexicocitinluez 5mo ago
    > Why do I have to create a weird "workflow" to receive webhooks in a chat channel? Clearly? Because they don't feel as passionate about a chat app as you? That's your conclusion from that statement? > Teams is just a very slow web browser with the worst possible way to manage bookmarks and tabs. I honestly don't even know what this means. Do you have any experience onboarding a full organization? It sounds like you're just lifting stuff from HN. > When you add all the other bloat Teams promotes I've been managing a Teams organization for over 6 years now and the only issue we have is when people are on too many teams. And by too many, I mean 100s of Teams at once. We're a healthcare provider that auto-creates teams for each patient we see and assigns people to them and when managers want to be on all teams, it becomes difficult to use. If you don't have the skills to manage it, maybe you should step let someone with more experience do it for you.
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nerdjon 5mo ago
I really hate that Teams has basically taken over. It has so many poor design decisions that I regularly feel like I am fighting it. My single biggest pet peeve, how it handles chats from meetings when you are not in the meeting. I have lost so many chats (or never got responses) because they were hidden in meeting chats that for some reason don't appear in your normal chat list. Sure Slack had its own issues, but I don't remember ever feeling like I was actively fighting it and loosing.
brianjking 5mo ago
lol, I love that their first example is bringing Slack content into Teams. It's like they've completely forgotten if I have Slack, there's 0 way I'm going to have Teams open if I can avoid it at all.
willio58 5mo ago
Same at my company. Moved to teams for the lovely “cost savings”. It’s a hog, nobody likes it. So then a portion of the company went to get on Gather which is cool. And the rest of the company never gave up slack so it’s this fun thing where nobody knows where any meeting is and it can be in 1 of 3 apps because why would it be simple?

leosanchez 5mo ago

IMO Only thing good about Teams is Emojis

biglyburrito 5mo ago
And yet Slack still does it better
Jedd 5mo ago
Do you mean the way that Microsoft hijacked open-parenthesis, and you can't choose a different character to trigger an emoji call?
- lifescarcity 5mo ago
  https://youtu.be/2PYBj_VhvXg?si=eQogTv825zSyeBvX https://youtu.be/2PYBj_VhvXg?si=eQogTv825zSyeBvX You can use :
  - Jedd 5mo ago
    aha - they've added colon. I notice that ( still goes into emoji mode though. So, the worst of both worlds. I should not be surprised. (And I am not.)
  - vladvasiliu 5mo ago
    Which is extremely practical for French, where the colon comes after a space. So if you want to write an actual colon to introduce a list on the following line, you’ll just input whatever the default smiley is.
dgan 5mo ago
Cant wait to look like an idiot after sending a heart to my boss while trying to select the hostname
- npodbielski 5mo ago
  Maybe he will like it! Who knows?!
crote 5mo ago
Except for the fact where their emoji :shortcodes: are different from everyone elses, so if you're not careful you end up looking like a lunatic.
Phelinofist 5mo ago
IMHO they are not. Using the shortcodes via () works okay-ish, but open the emoji menu is just awfully slow, it takes a solid 5-8 secs for it to show the emojis not recently used. It's absolute garbage.
high_na_euv 5mo ago
Calendar

fuzzzerd 5mo ago

Sounds nice. I've seen places that have essentially given up email in favor of teams for all communication.

earleybird 5mo ago
Now add a retention policy of 30 days. Business memory lived in those emails and now it's 50 First Dates

userbinator 5mo ago

Fortunately, there are companies which still use IRC and other entirely-open standards such as SIP for collaborative communication.

SV_BubbleTime 5mo ago

I know it’s NerdCool to hate on Teams, but I really don’t get it. I’m in Linux with portal for teams (electron app)… and it’s fine. Like, we moved to it from slack and I just don’t see much of a difference. I type stuff, and people see it. I set up a call and people join, we talk. What is it that is so broken, or is it just cool to hate?

minetest2048 5mo ago
> I type stuff, and people see it I wish... I'm on Windows 11 Enterprise with corporate Teams, definitely 100% Microsoft approved combination and: - on one channel my message never got sent, while on another channel it does work - sometimes when I scrolled up the old messages doesn't show up, with a 'message removed by organization retention policy' text.. but those are messages from yesterday and sometimes when I restarted Teams it shows up again.. sometime it doesn't but when I opened web Teams it does show up - sometime I can't connect to Teams for no reason, restarting Teams and computer doesn't help either, went to the IT helpdesk and they spent several minutes redoing what I did until they just googled it and delete the cookies or something I also used slack and from my perspective its 100% reliable at delivering text messages
- skirmish 5mo ago
  Flaky Wifi connection? Maybe Slack just retries more, and Teams gives up easily?
  - actionfromafar 5mo ago
    Those are questions Microsoft should ask themselves during testing.
    - skirmish 5mo ago
      Last I heard in the news, Microsoft fired most of their testing teams, so no.
- noufalibrahim 5mo ago

psnehanshu 5mo ago

Slack is a different kind of hell now with their sales-force

brianjking 5mo ago
Bring back Glitch the game! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(video_game) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(video_game)
maronato 5mo ago
Now? Salesforce bought Slack almost 6 years ago

m348e912 5mo ago

>> Your users live in Teams. > No, I assure you, we do not This absolutism is tiring. I can assure you there are plenty of companies who use teams as their sole messaging platform. My company uses slack, teams, and zoom. Which one you use the most depends on the person or the team they are on. (Although zoom is being phased out to the chagrin of some folks). Teams isn't without it's issues, it's annoyingly slow, and startup takes so long I have missed a meeting or two because of it. But, the conferencing experience is pretty decent, and I think you're just being contrarian for the sake of it.

szszrk 5mo ago
> This absolutism is tiring. What is really tiring is using Teams as a tool to embed other websites. Because that's what "apps" and most other functionalities are. Teams is just a very slow web browser with the worst possible way to manage bookmarks and tabs. You clearly don't have an organization fully onboarded to Teams, as you yourself describe. You use it as a conferencing tool. When you add all the other bloat Teams promotes it becomes a burden that makes me want to come back to sorting thousands of emails with outlook rules.
- mexicocitinluez 5mo ago
  > Why do I have to create a weird "workflow" to receive webhooks in a chat channel? Clearly? Because they don't feel as passionate about a chat app as you? That's your conclusion from that statement? > Teams is just a very slow web browser with the worst possible way to manage bookmarks and tabs. I honestly don't even know what this means. Do you have any experience onboarding a full organization? It sounds like you're just lifting stuff from HN. > When you add all the other bloat Teams promotes I've been managing a Teams organization for over 6 years now and the only issue we have is when people are on too many teams. And by too many, I mean 100s of Teams at once. We're a healthcare provider that auto-creates teams for each patient we see and assigns people to them and when managers want to be on all teams, it becomes difficult to use. If you don't have the skills to manage it, maybe you should step let someone with more experience do it for you.

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nerdjon 5mo ago

I really hate that Teams has basically taken over. It has so many poor design decisions that I regularly feel like I am fighting it. My single biggest pet peeve, how it handles chats from meetings when you are not in the meeting. I have lost so many chats (or never got responses) because they were hidden in meeting chats that for some reason don't appear in your normal chat list. Sure Slack had its own issues, but I don't remember ever feeling like I was actively fighting it and loosing.

brianjking 5mo ago

lol, I love that their first example is bringing Slack content into Teams. It's like they've completely forgotten if I have Slack, there's 0 way I'm going to have Teams open if I can avoid it at all.

willio58 5mo ago

Same at my company. Moved to teams for the lovely “cost savings”. It’s a hog, nobody likes it. So then a portion of the company went to get on Gather which is cool. And the rest of the company never gave up slack so it’s this fun thing where nobody knows where any meeting is and it can be in 1 of 3 apps because why would it be simple?