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It's not just public housing it's all housing. Even some public housing advocates argue against housing reforms that would make it possible to build public hous

It's not just public housing it's all housing. Even some public housing advocates argue against housing reforms that would make it possible to build public housing! I've been supporting an advocacy group looking to build social housing and at least half the pushback is from anti-housing "tenant advocates" that work for non-profits funded by extremely foundations with boards that are all very wealthy with multiple homes, and don't see the need for more housing. The "tenant advocates" seem to view housing similarly and only support public housing to the extent that it doesn't actually get built.

throwaway27448 6mo ago
Well obviously fuck those guys, but we need to build housing people are going to actually live in
- epistasis 6mo ago
  Pretty much all housing is housing that people are going to live in... Unless you are only talking about housing for a certain type of people, and that you'll only approve housing for that type of people, otherwise no housing? That's a very common position that I disagree with strongly. Soak the rich, let them pay for the high cost of new housing, and it benefits everyone. For public housing, it should be for all incomes so that those with high incomes subsidize those with lower incomes, so that the public housing has support throughout all levels of society when it comes to vote for maintenance every year, so that when there's a budget cut it's all of society fighting to ensure that the public housing is maintained. We need to break out of the idea that only some people deserve to get housing, and that we should build just for that narrow band of people. New housing is expensive, we need a lot of it, and those with money are the ones who should pay for it.
  - throwaway27448 6mo ago
    Yes, we all have a right to a decent place to live! But unless we can accept public ownership of land (and therefore housing), there's not much to iterate on and we're left with today's reality where we happily let millions live on the street for no fucking reason

throwaway27448 6mo ago

Well obviously fuck those guys, but we need to build housing people are going to actually live in

epistasis 6mo ago
Pretty much all housing is housing that people are going to live in... Unless you are only talking about housing for a certain type of people, and that you'll only approve housing for that type of people, otherwise no housing? That's a very common position that I disagree with strongly. Soak the rich, let them pay for the high cost of new housing, and it benefits everyone. For public housing, it should be for all incomes so that those with high incomes subsidize those with lower incomes, so that the public housing has support throughout all levels of society when it comes to vote for maintenance every year, so that when there's a budget cut it's all of society fighting to ensure that the public housing is maintained. We need to break out of the idea that only some people deserve to get housing, and that we should build just for that narrow band of people. New housing is expensive, we need a lot of it, and those with money are the ones who should pay for it.
- throwaway27448 6mo ago
  Yes, we all have a right to a decent place to live! But unless we can accept public ownership of land (and therefore housing), there's not much to iterate on and we're left with today's reality where we happily let millions live on the street for no fucking reason