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So the use case is just IP theft so you can get more Paw Patrol? AI aside, if you’ve truly exhausted all the simple readers, maybe she should move on to more a

by mcmcmc 6mo ago

So the use case is just IP theft so you can get more Paw Patrol? AI aside, if you’ve truly exhausted all the simple readers, maybe she should move on to more advanced books instead of repeating more of the same and gamifying it, which seems a great way to destroy a child’s natural curiosity.

ndriscoll 6mo ago
Sure, I don't view "IP" as valid, don't entertain the idea that it is possible to "steal" it, and absolutely don't care that someone out there might be sad imagining me making a coloring book for my kids. In fact I'd go so far as to say that holding the position that there's something wrong with tailoring teaching to a child's interests and avoiding that for fear of copyright concerns of all things actually makes you morally bad. You overestimate how many there are. There's like 10 stories at that level. I do also read ones with paragraphs to her, but she can't do those herself because she's 4.
- breezybottom 6mo ago
  Ah the old sovereign citizen reverse uno. It's actually evil NOT to use the art theft machine to dumb down your children.
  - ndriscoll 6mo ago
    Yes, generating tailored practice material for a continuous difficulty curve and to keep their focus with something they enjoy is dumbing down. Exactly. Do you get this upset at illegal drug users for their flouting the law (e.g. recreational marijuana is still illegal everywhere in the US) as you do with me making reading material for my own children? Do you get this upset at artists themselves who no doubt "stole" others' art (e.g. copied a drawing or drew a character they did not "own") at some point in their learning process? I also sing Raffi songs to my children without asking for permission! I hope he doesn't mind!
bsenftner 6mo ago
That is not IP theft, that's private use. If (s)he tries to sell those coloring books, that's then theft. You're free to do anything you want with IP in privacy, it's only when selling or exhibiting to the public IP law is triggered. Knock yourself out with protected IP in private.
- breezybottom 6mo ago
  You're thinking of fair use, and that's the worst interpretation of it I've seen.
  - bsenftner 6mo ago
    But it's true. You can do anything you want with private IP in private. It is the dissemination and distribution of IP that not yours that is the issue.
    - breezybottom 6mo ago
      Not even remotely true. Fair use doesn't give you licence to pirate, unless you're a politically connected AI company.
      - bsenftner 6mo ago
        It is not piracy to acquire private IP legally (someone has to get it in the first place) and then you can to anything you want with it in your own privacy. It becomes an issue when your activities with that private IP is no longer private. think it through, I really don't think you have. BTW, I'm CTO of a law firm.
        eieke 6mo ago
        CTO of a (immigration) law firm lol. Bro you’re not a IP lawyer
        6mo ago

by mcmcmc 6mo ago

ndriscoll 6mo ago

Sure, I don't view "IP" as valid, don't entertain the idea that it is possible to "steal" it, and absolutely don't care that someone out there might be sad imagining me making a coloring book for my kids. In fact I'd go so far as to say that holding the position that there's something wrong with tailoring teaching to a child's interests and avoiding that for fear of copyright concerns of all things actually makes you morally bad. You overestimate how many there are. There's like 10 stories at that level. I do also read ones with paragraphs to her, but she can't do those herself because she's 4.

breezybottom 6mo ago
Ah the old sovereign citizen reverse uno. It's actually evil NOT to use the art theft machine to dumb down your children.
- ndriscoll 6mo ago
  Yes, generating tailored practice material for a continuous difficulty curve and to keep their focus with something they enjoy is dumbing down. Exactly. Do you get this upset at illegal drug users for their flouting the law (e.g. recreational marijuana is still illegal everywhere in the US) as you do with me making reading material for my own children? Do you get this upset at artists themselves who no doubt "stole" others' art (e.g. copied a drawing or drew a character they did not "own") at some point in their learning process? I also sing Raffi songs to my children without asking for permission! I hope he doesn't mind!

bsenftner 6mo ago

That is not IP theft, that's private use. If (s)he tries to sell those coloring books, that's then theft. You're free to do anything you want with IP in privacy, it's only when selling or exhibiting to the public IP law is triggered. Knock yourself out with protected IP in private.

breezybottom 6mo ago
You're thinking of fair use, and that's the worst interpretation of it I've seen.
- bsenftner 6mo ago
  But it's true. You can do anything you want with private IP in private. It is the dissemination and distribution of IP that not yours that is the issue.
  - breezybottom 6mo ago
    Not even remotely true. Fair use doesn't give you licence to pirate, unless you're a politically connected AI company.
    - bsenftner 6mo ago
      It is not piracy to acquire private IP legally (someone has to get it in the first place) and then you can to anything you want with it in your own privacy. It becomes an issue when your activities with that private IP is no longer private. think it through, I really don't think you have. BTW, I'm CTO of a law firm.
      - eieke 6mo ago
        CTO of a (immigration) law firm lol. Bro you’re not a IP lawyer
        6mo ago