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Also, Pixels have unlocked bootloaders and Android is open source to the point where third parties can and do make alternative OS distributions.
by modeless 6mo ago
Also, Pixels have unlocked bootloaders and Android is open source to the point where third parties can and do make alternative OS distributions.
- cwillu 6mo agoAnd it's necessary to have a second phone to actually use any of that while maintaining access to one's banking app. The hardware is nominally open only because they enforce participation in their software ecosystem via other means.
- DANmode 6mo ago> And it's necessary to have a second phone to actually use any of that while maintaining access to one's banking app. Partially accurate / misleading at most.
- cwillu 6mo agoI have a phone that can be unlocked, and I will lose access to my banking app (among other things I require) if I do so. If your “partially accurate” objection is that I didn't describe a perfectly universal experience, I will be greatly disappointed.
- DANmode 6mo agoVouching your comment from dead to reply in good faith: your bank’s app sucks, tell them they suck, and or use the webapp. Tens of thousands of financial institution apps work A-OK on GrapheneOS, that is my objection.
- hedora 6mo agoThat’s good to know. Is there a list? Maybe a vocal community of computer literate people with money could loudly move to banks that do work (regardless of which phone they have).
- DANmode 6mo agoApps with Google SafetyNet usage, and or Google Pay NFC dependency to start the app, two common failure modes.
- DANmode 6mo agoWhat does “unlocked” mean, here? Are we talking about root checks? Bootloader unlock?
- whatsupdog 6mo agoThat's like saying there's no freedom in USA because I didn't get a visa to visit. We are talking about the freedom of Google devices. And you are talking about banks not letting you install their apps on a non Google OS. Totally different things.