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I’ve asked an artist if they should be worried about the newest generative AI capabilities. This is his (translated) response: > Artists? Pencil laborers, more

I’ve asked an artist if they should be worried about the newest generative AI capabilities. This is his (translated) response: > Artists? Pencil laborers, more like.. I am in favor of using AI in visuals. It will eliminate a lot of mere decorators, and won’t even slightly affect the artists. I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot of empty landscape copiers. Impressionism was born shortly after that. See, I believe many cursed photography, but Monet never saw it as a problem.

MetaWhirledPeas 6mo ago
> I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot of empty landscape copiers I like this analogy. Maybe this time around is different, but I like to hope it's not.
- api 6mo ago
  The anti-AI discourse is almost identical to anti-photography diatribes from more than a century ago. Artists will also learn to use AI to make art. I don’t mean slop, which is low effort stuff and I tend to use that term regardless of whether AI was involved. I mean real art where the AI is used with painstaking care the way a photographer uses their camera.
coldtea 6mo ago
Wishful thinking. What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it. It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply. A healthy art scene needs all kinds of creators, at different levels, and needs to be able to sustain a decent above-average quality chunk of them. Not just the Monets. Not to mention it seems like the pretentious artist in the discussion sees themselves as some outlier Monet type that will be fine.
- avereveard 6mo ago
  Why?
  - coldtea 6mo ago
    I gave my why's already in the previous comment: Claim: What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it. Why: It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. Claim: That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply. Why: (because) a healthy art scene needs all kinds of creators, at different levels, and needs to be able to sustain a decent above-average quality chunk of them. Not just the Monets. As for the last claim: Claim: Not to mention it seems like the pretentious artist in the discussion sees themselves as some outlier Monet type that will be fine. Here's the why behind that (since I didn't elaborate as I find it self-evident): because he says he's fine with AI, because AI will sweep the art scene from lesser artists and lives the Monets and real artists. Either he claims that he is one of the lesser artists that's OK for AI to sweep away, or he implies that he's one of the good ones that would be fine. The latter sounds far more plausible.
    - 8note 6mo ago
      > Why: It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. why do you think this is the case though? vs people being more excited to get art made by small artists because they arent ai slop. tbe small artist opening their stufio to sell prints has always been about the experience of visiting and talking to the artist, not the piece of slop that you end up buying
      - coldtea 6mo ago
        >why do you think this is the case though? vs people being more excited to get art made by small artists because they arent ai slop. Because the fatigue with art in general, including human produced, due to the overproduction AI added, is already visible.
viccis 6mo ago
If AI cuts the time it takes to get an acceptable result for him by half, will he also cut his rates by half?
- Lucasoato 6mo ago
  Ask Monet if photography made his paintings less valuable.
  - viccis 6mo ago
    He would certainly reply that his paintings weren't valued so highly for their functional purpose before. If AI art doesn't impinge on your friend's business, it's because he was selling art for art's sake rather than (as the majority of artists do to make a living) creating art to fill a functional need. The latter is what photography and AI impact.
guzfip 6mo ago
> it got rid of a lot of empty landscape copiers. Hey now, HN would have you believe these guys are the pinnacle of art.

MetaWhirledPeas 6mo ago

> I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot of empty landscape copiers I like this analogy. Maybe this time around is different, but I like to hope it's not.

api 6mo ago
The anti-AI discourse is almost identical to anti-photography diatribes from more than a century ago. Artists will also learn to use AI to make art. I don’t mean slop, which is low effort stuff and I tend to use that term regardless of whether AI was involved. I mean real art where the AI is used with painstaking care the way a photographer uses their camera.

coldtea 6mo ago

Wishful thinking. What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it. It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply. A healthy art scene needs all kinds of creators, at different levels, and needs to be able to sustain a decent above-average quality chunk of them. Not just the Monets. Not to mention it seems like the pretentious artist in the discussion sees themselves as some outlier Monet type that will be fine.

avereveard 6mo ago
Why?
- coldtea 6mo ago
  I gave my why's already in the previous comment: Claim: What it will do is it will spoil it for 99% of small time artists that still managed to make a living out of it. Why: It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. Claim: That "artists" idea is that the Monet's will survive, but art is not a rat race where just the Monets need apply. Why: (because) a healthy art scene needs all kinds of creators, at different levels, and needs to be able to sustain a decent above-average quality chunk of them. Not just the Monets. As for the last claim: Claim: Not to mention it seems like the pretentious artist in the discussion sees themselves as some outlier Monet type that will be fine. Here's the why behind that (since I didn't elaborate as I find it self-evident): because he says he's fine with AI, because AI will sweep the art scene from lesser artists and lives the Monets and real artists. Either he claims that he is one of the lesser artists that's OK for AI to sweep away, or he implies that he's one of the good ones that would be fine. The latter sounds far more plausible.
  - 8note 6mo ago
    > Why: It will drown audience with slop and make them not care for new releases even more. why do you think this is the case though? vs people being more excited to get art made by small artists because they arent ai slop. tbe small artist opening their stufio to sell prints has always been about the experience of visiting and talking to the artist, not the piece of slop that you end up buying
    - coldtea 6mo ago
      >why do you think this is the case though? vs people being more excited to get art made by small artists because they arent ai slop. Because the fatigue with art in general, including human produced, due to the overproduction AI added, is already visible.

viccis 6mo ago

If AI cuts the time it takes to get an acceptable result for him by half, will he also cut his rates by half?

Lucasoato 6mo ago
Ask Monet if photography made his paintings less valuable.
- viccis 6mo ago
  He would certainly reply that his paintings weren't valued so highly for their functional purpose before. If AI art doesn't impinge on your friend's business, it's because he was selling art for art's sake rather than (as the majority of artists do to make a living) creating art to fill a functional need. The latter is what photography and AI impact.

guzfip 6mo ago

> it got rid of a lot of empty landscape copiers. Hey now, HN would have you believe these guys are the pinnacle of art.