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Heat gun? This isn't the type of consumer-friendly battery replacement which the EU is looking for.

bombcar 6mo ago
reminds me of finding an old scout manual that said "go to your neighborhood blacksmith" - different things are "easy" for different people.
- solenoid0937 6mo ago
  The people that are scared of using a hairdryer on their iPhone, won't be willing to disassemble it either. We have got to stop coddling people. We don't need to compromise on everything just so it's fully maintainable and accessible by the lowest common denominator. This law is being designed for a group that frankly does not care either way, but makes the devices worse for them in a practical, day-to-day sense.
  - globular-toast 6mo ago
    Nah. I'm perfectly capable of using a heat gun. Still don't think it's the kind of thing I should have to do for general maintenance of a tool.
- krick 6mo ago
  I'm curious what was this about.
nearbuy 6mo ago
You don't need a heat gun. A regular hair dryer is fine.
- snet0 6mo ago
  A fine way to start a house fire, sure.
  - djhn 6mo ago
    Starting a fire with a hair dryer, without disassemblibg it, seems almost like a challenge. What are you going to ignite with 80-90°C warm, rapidly cooling air?
- JimTheMan 6mo ago
  Not everyone has, or needs a hairdryer!
  - archon810 6mo ago
    Or hair.
  - nearbuy 6mo ago
    I don't have one but odds are you know someone with one. Or, given the audience of hn, someone with a heat gun.
dwaite 6mo ago
It is hard to tell what the EU is actually looking for when you compare against the meter stick of reality. Even ignoring potential design impacts from transitioning from sealed batteries to ones padded with safety features to avoid harm to someone armed with a conductive screwdriver, I have to imagine there will be quite a few people who do not restore the device to its ip 68 rating. So you risk people stockpiling batteries in case they need them later, and people who after repair increase the risk of them turning their phone into a pile of e-waste because they thought they could still get it wet. People also won't necessarily know the proper way to dispose of the old battery. This compared to just having rules about needing to supply batteries which are replaceable by any appropriate state-licensed technician at cost for X number of years, and mandating the old batteries be properly recycled by said technicians.

reminds me of finding an old scout manual that said "go to your neighborhood blacksmith" - different things are "easy" for different people.

solenoid0937 6mo ago
The people that are scared of using a hairdryer on their iPhone, won't be willing to disassemble it either. We have got to stop coddling people. We don't need to compromise on everything just so it's fully maintainable and accessible by the lowest common denominator. This law is being designed for a group that frankly does not care either way, but makes the devices worse for them in a practical, day-to-day sense.
- globular-toast 6mo ago
  Nah. I'm perfectly capable of using a heat gun. Still don't think it's the kind of thing I should have to do for general maintenance of a tool.
krick 6mo ago
I'm curious what was this about.

nearbuy 6mo ago

You don't need a heat gun. A regular hair dryer is fine.

snet0 6mo ago
A fine way to start a house fire, sure.
- djhn 6mo ago
  Starting a fire with a hair dryer, without disassemblibg it, seems almost like a challenge. What are you going to ignite with 80-90°C warm, rapidly cooling air?
JimTheMan 6mo ago
Not everyone has, or needs a hairdryer!
- archon810 6mo ago
  Or hair.
- nearbuy 6mo ago
  I don't have one but odds are you know someone with one. Or, given the audience of hn, someone with a heat gun.

dwaite 6mo ago

It is hard to tell what the EU is actually looking for when you compare against the meter stick of reality. Even ignoring potential design impacts from transitioning from sealed batteries to ones padded with safety features to avoid harm to someone armed with a conductive screwdriver, I have to imagine there will be quite a few people who do not restore the device to its ip 68 rating. So you risk people stockpiling batteries in case they need them later, and people who after repair increase the risk of them turning their phone into a pile of e-waste because they thought they could still get it wet. People also won't necessarily know the proper way to dispose of the old battery. This compared to just having rules about needing to supply batteries which are replaceable by any appropriate state-licensed technician at cost for X number of years, and mandating the old batteries be properly recycled by said technicians.