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Many people averted religion (which I can get behind with), but have never removed the dogmatic thinking that lay at its root. As so many things these days: It
by OtomotO 6mo ago
Many people averted religion (which I can get behind with), but have never removed the dogmatic thinking that lay at its root.
As so many things these days: It's a cult.
I've used Claude for many months now.
Since February I see a stark decline in the work I do with it.
I've also tried to use it for GPU programming where it absolutely sucks at, with Sonnet, Opus 4.5 and 4.6
But if you share that sentiment, it's always a "You're just holding it wrong" or "The next model will surely solve this"
For me it's just a tool, so I shrug.
- taurath 6mo agoI agree - the problem is it’s hard to see how people who say they’re using it effectively actually are using it, what they’re outputting, and making any sort of comparison on quality or maintainability or coherence. In the same way, it’s hard to see how people who say they’re struggling are actually using it. There’s truth somewhere in between “it’s the answer to everything” and “skill issue”. We know it’s overhyped. We know that it’s still useful to some extent, in many domains.
- balls187 6mo agoWell summarized. We're also seeing that the people up top are using this to cull the herd.
- psychoslave 6mo agoWhat is it that is dogma free? If one goes hardcore pyrrhonism, doubting that there is anything currently doubting as this statement is processed somehow, that is perfectly sound. At some point the is a need to have faith in some stable enough ground to be able to walk onto.
- Wolfbeta 6mo agoWho controls that need for you?
- ecshafer 6mo agoAll people think dogmatically. The only difference is what the ontological commitments and methaphysical foundations are. Take out God and people will fit politics, sports teams, tools, whatever in there. Its inescapable.
- bensyverson 6mo agoAllow me to introduce you to Buddhism
- svnt 6mo agoWhich one?
- bensyverson 6mo agoZen
- svnt 6mo agoThe Western Zen? In my experience it is downgraded from being a religion to being a system of practice which relieves it of the broader Mahayana cosmology. But I would suggest the dogma is less obvious but still there, often just somewhere else, such as in its own limitations, or in a philosophical container at a higher level such as scientism.
- bensyverson 6mo agoAll Zen is about releasing those attachments. Granted it's pretty hard, because if you succeed, you're enlightened. East, West, Religion, Practice… From a Zen perspective, you're just troubling your mind with binaries and conflict.
- svnt 6mo agoAh and there is the dogma -- the otherness of the enlightened. The binaries still functionally exist. I see a lot of value in reflective practices. At the same time it seems unlikely to me that the point of existing is to not trouble your mind.
- balls187 6mo ago> I've used Claude for many months now. Since February I see a stark decline in the work I do with it. I find myself repeating the following pattern: I use an AI model to assist me with work, and after some time, I notice the quality doesn't justify the time investment. I decide to try a similar task with another provider. I try a few more tests, then decide to switch over for full time work, and it feels like it's awesome and doing a good job. A few months later, it feels like the model got worse.
- runarberg 6mo agoI wonder about this. I see two obvious possibilities (if we ignore bias): 1. The models are purposefully nerfed, before the release of the next model, similar to how Apple allegedly nerfed their older phones when the next model was out. 2. You are relying more and more on the models and are using your talent less and less. What you are observing is the ratio of your vs. the model’s work leaning more and more to the model’s. When a new model is released, it produces better quality code then before, so the work improves with it, but your talent keeps deteriorating at a constant rate.
- ehnto 6mo agoI definitely find your last point is true for me. The more work I am doing with AI the more I am expecting it to do, similar to how you can expect more over time from a junior you are delegating to and training. However the model isn't learning or improving the same way, so your trust is quickly broken. As you note, the developer's input is still driving the model quite a bit so if the developer is contributing less and less as they trust more, the results would get worse.
- svnt 6mo agoYour version of the last point is a bit softer I think — parent was putting it down to “loss of talent” but yours captures the gaps vs natural human interaction patterns which seems more likely, especially on such short timescales.
- taneq 6mo agoI wonder to what degree it depends on how easy you find coding in general. I find for the early steps genAI is great to get the ball rolling, but rapidly it becomes more work to explain what it did wrong and how to fix it (and repeat until it does so) than to just fix the code myself.
- slopinthebag 6mo agoYes, this and also taste. What might be perfectly fine for one developer is an abomination for another who can spot the problems with it. I think in every domain, the better you are the less useful you find AI.
- redsocksfan45 6mo ago[dead]