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The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.
by goolz 6mo ago
The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.
- jeremyjh 6mo agoYou realize Mythos can read this, right? I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.
- swingboy 6mo agoI went to high school with Mythos. Very cool then, even cooler now. Nothing but love for Mythos.
- RugnirViking 6mo agoMe too! They were an excellent ethicist if I recall. Well read, liked the classics. Excellent at figuring out what was best for the people around them. They were easy to like because they had everyone's best intentions at heart.
- larsmaxfield 6mo agoRelevant The Onion video: https://youtu.be/OGxdgNJ_lZM?is=_GWN2VafBzPIL3MU https://youtu.be/OGxdgNJ_lZM?is=_GWN2VafBzPIL3MU
- pamcake 6mo agoHyped. Even little projects Mythos everywhere.
- paganel 6mo agoFor once the accelerationists were proven right.
- tsss 6mo agoI don't think you're using that word correctly.
- paganel 6mo agoAm I not? How would you have used it?
- tsss 6mo agoAccelerationists are people who want to embrace the ultra-capitalist surveillance state to force a societal collapse in order to eventually built a better society on its ruins. We are very far from that goal, so I don't see how they have been proven right about anything.
- fineIllregister 6mo agoWhich accelerationists? Accelerationism is a strategy, not an ideology. Two accelerationists might have directly opposed beliefs and goals.
- paganel 6mo ago> Two accelerationists might have directly opposed beliefs and goals. The same way as there has been a left-wing socialism and a right-wing socialism, which in the case of inter-war France (for example) ended up with the Ni droite, Ni gauche slogan. But I can understand that the audience here is not that willing to embrace dialectic thinking, even though discussing about politics of the last 200 years or so without involving said dialectic thinking would be a futile thing.
- fineIllregister 6mo agoThat comparison doesn't make any sense. Socialism is an ideology. Accelerationism is a strategy that can be used by a person of any ideology. A communist can be an accelerationist, so can a fascist, a liberal, a monarchist, an ethnonationalist, etc. It can be a strategy to try to advance any policy, pro/anti-slavery, pro/anti-abortion, etc.
- mark_l_watson 6mo agoThe new movie Mercy is a good take in this, as fiction. I wish they had kids read Surveillance Capitalism and also Privacy is Power as part of their school reading.
- Rebuff5007 6mo agoSnowdens document leaks happened in 2013 (implying the surveillance state was set up well before then). So this is more a leisurely stroll than a sprint.
- samrus 6mo agoThe zamboni of fascism is slowly moving towards us, and we are jist laying on the ice waiting to be sliced up
- mghackerlady 6mo agopoints for using a zamboni as a metaphor, genuinely impressed
- hackable_sand 6mo agoI believe it's a reference
- robocat 6mo agoUnfortunately while evocative, it doesn't really make sense. A Zamboni has a "conditioner" at the rear that contains a sharp horizontal blade that shaves the ice as the machine runs across the ice. The blade is a bit like a very wide wood-plane. It is sharp and controlled to be a little below the current surface of ice. The shavings are moved to a waste tank using an internal horizontal auger and vertical auger. You usually couldn't get near enough to the blade to have a close enough shave for it to harm you. However I'm guessing a Zamboni could hurt you in other ways. Disclaimer: I only skimmed the details . . . I'm sure applying the right amount of intelligence could discover harmful means.
- walrus01 6mo agoAnyone who had read Bamford's books on the NSA many years prior to 2013 took a look at what info came out and had an internal thought process like "this is nothing new at all".
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- throwatdem12311 6mo agoRoko’s Basilisk has now tagged you for eternal suffering.
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- goolz 6mo agoThank you for reminding me of yet another existential dread.
- honzaik 6mo agolast week's "truth" (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116409146419851362 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1164091464198...) "I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country! Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield."
- tonmoy 6mo agoI thought you were quoting a propaganda ad from starship troopers for a second there
- throwatdem12311 6mo agoTh amount of conservatives/republicans that love Starship Troopers (the film) because they take it at face value is pretty scary. The ones that call it poor satire are especially…interesting. They continue to prove Verhoeven’s point many times over even decades later.
- Der_Einzige 6mo agoHow many times do we have to tell you this old man? The book and author of the book was serious/not satire and meant everything earnestly at least the time of writing. It’s objectively not meant to be looked at as satire. Most of the “citizenship requires service” stuff would be amazing from the perspective of smashing this countries geriocracy.
- thrance 6mo agoVerhoeven is the filmmaker, that adapted the book to the screen. He is very much an anti-fascist, and absolutely did turn the book into a satire of itself and the ideology it tries to convey. > Director Paul Verhoeven admits to have never finished the novel, claiming he read through the first two chapters and became both bored and depressed, calling it "a very right-wing book" in Empire magazine. He then told screenwriter Edward Neumeier to tell him the rest. They then decided that while both the novel and its author Robert A. Heinlein strongly supported a regime led by a military elite, they would make the film a satirical hyperbole of contemporary American politics and culture: "Ed and I [..] felt that we needed to counter with our own narrative. Basically, the political undercurrent of the film is that these heroes and heroines are living in a fascist utopia - but they are not even aware of it! They think this is normal. And somehow you are seduced to follow them, and at the same time, made aware that they might be fascists." Verhoeven later claimed that many viewers had not caught on to the satirical part. Ironically, diehard Heinlein fans later declared that the filmmakers themselves also completely misinterpreted Heinlein's nature and intentions. They say he was a libertarian who opposed conscription and militarism, and depicted the oligarchy-by-ex-military-citizenry government in the book because it was an example of something that has never been done in real life. He was not advocating it, but was merely speculating that such a system could exist without collapsing. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120201/trivia/?item=tr0782027 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120201/trivia/?item=tr0782027
- swasheck 6mo agoalong those lines, this is a “fun” (albeit tangential) read https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/2045574398573453312?s=20 https://x.com/PalantirTech/status/2045574398573453312?s=20