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> The most beloved games have the shittest code Do you have data supporting that? My favorite games (Factorio, Noita, Song of Syx to name a few) all share in c

> The most beloved games have the shittest code Do you have data supporting that? My favorite games (Factorio, Noita, Song of Syx to name a few) all share in common devs' passion and expertise. I don't have any example of a good game with shitty code.

sudokatsu 6mo ago
The Simpson’s Hit & Run and Fallout 3 come to mind
- LarsDu88 6mo ago
  The entire Fallout series, lol. Just played Fallout 2, and there's still unpatched game breaking bugs in there.
  - sudokatsu 6mo ago
    The bugs are half the fun :)
cubefox 6mo ago
There are countless great games with a lot of bugs and performance problems. Maybe most of them have pretty code behind the scenes, but I doubt it.
DonHopkins 6mo ago
I had an experience developing The Sims 1, which confirms the "Worse is Better" hypothesis, which is a harsh reality of the games industry and the software development industry in general: I pointed out to my manager that the code was shit, and we really needed to clean it up before shipping. So he sat me down and explained: "Don, your job is TURD POLISHING. If you can just make your turd nice and shiny, we will ship it, and everybody will be happy with you, because that is what we hired you to do." But then at least he gave me a few weeks to clean up and overhaul the worst code. The moral is be careful what you ask for, or you might have to be the one who shovels out all the shit. https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/TDSEditToDo.pdf https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/TDSEditTo... https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/ComprehensiveArtAssessment.pdf https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/Comprehen...
cleaning 6mo ago
Terraria is an infamous example.
pjmlp 6mo ago
Hunt for Postmortens at GDC magazine or GDC Vault.
OkayPhysicist 6mo ago
Undertale is the oft-quoted example. Hell, Minecraft is a perfectly good example. It's code is a mess, but it made it's developer a billionaire, and has to be one of the most played games ever.
tardedmeme 6mo ago
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sudokatsu 6mo ago

The Simpson’s Hit & Run and Fallout 3 come to mind

LarsDu88 6mo ago
The entire Fallout series, lol. Just played Fallout 2, and there's still unpatched game breaking bugs in there.
- sudokatsu 6mo ago
  The bugs are half the fun :)

cubefox 6mo ago

There are countless great games with a lot of bugs and performance problems. Maybe most of them have pretty code behind the scenes, but I doubt it.

DonHopkins 6mo ago

I had an experience developing The Sims 1, which confirms the "Worse is Better" hypothesis, which is a harsh reality of the games industry and the software development industry in general: I pointed out to my manager that the code was shit, and we really needed to clean it up before shipping. So he sat me down and explained: "Don, your job is TURD POLISHING. If you can just make your turd nice and shiny, we will ship it, and everybody will be happy with you, because that is what we hired you to do." But then at least he gave me a few weeks to clean up and overhaul the worst code. The moral is be careful what you ask for, or you might have to be the one who shovels out all the shit. https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/TDSEditToDo.pdf https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/TDSEditTo... https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/ComprehensiveArtAssessment.pdf https://donhopkins.com/home/TheSimsDesignDocuments/Comprehen...

cleaning 6mo ago

Terraria is an infamous example.

pjmlp 6mo ago

Hunt for Postmortens at GDC magazine or GDC Vault.

OkayPhysicist 6mo ago

Undertale is the oft-quoted example. Hell, Minecraft is a perfectly good example. It's code is a mess, but it made it's developer a billionaire, and has to be one of the most played games ever.

tardedmeme 6mo ago

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