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What are the terms of service with this? Can I ask a friend in the area to install it and run some high-bandwidth services? I look forward to seeing whether thi

by marquis 14y ago

What are the terms of service with this? Can I ask a friend in the area to install it and run some high-bandwidth services? I look forward to seeing whether this turns KC into a gold-mine town reminiscent of the 1800s. I don't even know what I'd do with 700mb upload. Invent wall-to-wall video streaming? It's always been a dream of mine to have breakfast with my family from a distance with near-perfect, full-size resolution like some sci-fi movie in the 80s. (Ok seriously, if someone does this please invite me over for breakfast, even if it's remote-breakfast with a neighbour).

wmf 14y ago
Their unlinkable TOS says no servers.
- marquis 14y ago
  Fair enough. But P2P applications can take the brunt of the load and you can run your API on Firebase or something. I look forward to innovation. I also would think that the boundary between server and P2P might start to blur, given sufficient saturation of such possibilities around the world. This seems to the ToS element you mention: http://support.google.com/fiber/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2659981&topic=2440874&ctx=topic http://support.google.com/fiber/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ...
- Evbn 14y ago
  That is sort of a catchall to say that they can cut off any node that causes trouble. Not to say it is a great idea to run a CDN from your house, but they aren't trying to crush everyone like Comcast does to people on home contracts -- there is no more expensive business tier Google wants to push you up to.
  - rsheridan6 14y ago
    It seems like a lot of risk to base your business on the proposition that Google probably won't enforce their TOS.
    - wtallis 14y ago
      It's no more unreasonable than running a business off any other ISP's residential/consumer service. Google says in their FAQ that if you want to run a business off their service, contact them directly - the service they're advertising isn't for you.
      - rsheridan6 14y ago
        Nobody's talking about moving to another city to take advantage of another ISP's residential/consumer service as a business decision.
- ilaksh 14y ago
  REALLY? Because I was just seriously considering moving to KC until I read that sentence. If the legal agreement says no servers, then what is the point? What is the point of moving your startup to KC if you technically aren't allowed to run a business off of Google Fiber?
  - jonknee 14y ago
    What home ISP allows you to run a server? "Business class" is always required for that sort of thing. That said, few startups should be hosting their own servers, no matter the speed of their internet connection. Everything else you do will be blazing fast though.
    - stusmall 14y ago
      I've run servers off residential IPs before. I use to maintain a community box for me and a bunch of friends when I lived with my parents. It wasn't fast but it met our needs. The only problems I ever ran into with the ISP was when I tried to run a mail server.
    - sbalea 14y ago
      Optimum Online, on their Boost package
  - dagw 14y ago
    From the FAQ: "For businesses located in qualified fiberhoods, we plan to introduce a small business offering shortly". If you're seriously interested I'd give them a call and get more details on the exact timeline.
  - wmeredith 14y ago
    Productivity of your crew, mostly. Serving a consumer or b2b website is probably not something you're going to want to do out of a house any time soon. Google Fiber isn't redundant, it doesn't give you better RW security or route around any of the other problems of enterprise-grade hosting. It's just FAST internet.
- ujdtyhf 14y ago
  Can you run Torrent server, Minecraft server, Counter strike server, Web server for your blog, Web server for your micro business that uses 0.1 MByte/s - 2MByte/s upload? I can do all those things on my 10USD/month 20/20 mbit home net in Poland.
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by marquis 14y ago

wmf 14y ago

Their unlinkable TOS says no servers.

marquis 14y ago
Fair enough. But P2P applications can take the brunt of the load and you can run your API on Firebase or something. I look forward to innovation. I also would think that the boundary between server and P2P might start to blur, given sufficient saturation of such possibilities around the world. This seems to the ToS element you mention: http://support.google.com/fiber/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2659981&topic=2440874&ctx=topic http://support.google.com/fiber/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ...
Evbn 14y ago
That is sort of a catchall to say that they can cut off any node that causes trouble. Not to say it is a great idea to run a CDN from your house, but they aren't trying to crush everyone like Comcast does to people on home contracts -- there is no more expensive business tier Google wants to push you up to.
- rsheridan6 14y ago
  It seems like a lot of risk to base your business on the proposition that Google probably won't enforce their TOS.
  - wtallis 14y ago
    It's no more unreasonable than running a business off any other ISP's residential/consumer service. Google says in their FAQ that if you want to run a business off their service, contact them directly - the service they're advertising isn't for you.
    - rsheridan6 14y ago
      Nobody's talking about moving to another city to take advantage of another ISP's residential/consumer service as a business decision.
ilaksh 14y ago
REALLY? Because I was just seriously considering moving to KC until I read that sentence. If the legal agreement says no servers, then what is the point? What is the point of moving your startup to KC if you technically aren't allowed to run a business off of Google Fiber?
- jonknee 14y ago
  What home ISP allows you to run a server? "Business class" is always required for that sort of thing. That said, few startups should be hosting their own servers, no matter the speed of their internet connection. Everything else you do will be blazing fast though.
  - stusmall 14y ago
    I've run servers off residential IPs before. I use to maintain a community box for me and a bunch of friends when I lived with my parents. It wasn't fast but it met our needs. The only problems I ever ran into with the ISP was when I tried to run a mail server.
  - sbalea 14y ago
    Optimum Online, on their Boost package
- dagw 14y ago
  From the FAQ: "For businesses located in qualified fiberhoods, we plan to introduce a small business offering shortly". If you're seriously interested I'd give them a call and get more details on the exact timeline.
- wmeredith 14y ago
  Productivity of your crew, mostly. Serving a consumer or b2b website is probably not something you're going to want to do out of a house any time soon. Google Fiber isn't redundant, it doesn't give you better RW security or route around any of the other problems of enterprise-grade hosting. It's just FAST internet.
ujdtyhf 14y ago
Can you run Torrent server, Minecraft server, Counter strike server, Web server for your blog, Web server for your micro business that uses 0.1 MByte/s - 2MByte/s upload? I can do all those things on my 10USD/month 20/20 mbit home net in Poland.

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