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India on around 80% in the apnic labs active measurement of end users. https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/in https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/in They report n

by ggm 6mo ago

India on around 80% in the apnic labs active measurement of end users. https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/in https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/in They report nearly a billion users, predominantly in mobile. So, "only" 750 to 800 million users. Think about that: 3x the population of the USA using it most of the time, in one economy. Here's the rankings: https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/XA?o=cINw30x1r1 https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/XA?o=cINw30x1r1 This is a different measure to Google's. They measure different things,

nslsm 6mo ago
Now compare average income to see how much this matters.
- ZeWaka 6mo ago
  very transparent.
- harvey9 6mo ago
  Depends what you are selling and to whom. Meanwhile, India wanted to get a lot of people online and this appears to suit their needs.
- signa11 6mo ago
  what has _that_ got to do with ipv6 adoption/usage ? afaics, it probably has more to do with large indian-isp’s f.e. jio adopting ipv6.
- kmacdough 6mo ago
  I'm confused. What's your point? Obviously economies that rely largely on second hand technology are going to have old technology. Much of Africa is in this bucket. But looking past the extremes, India is at nearly 80% right alongside Germany. They fall in very different average income brackets. So the correlation isn't tight. I can't see any value in pointing out vague correlation between income and proliferation of a new technology. It's the most obvious of observations.
- imtringued 6mo ago
  This has nothing to do with income. The problem here is that India alone would be consuming 20% of the IPv4 address space.
porridgeraisin 6mo ago
It happened in india mainly due to regulatory pressure[1]. It also helped that around the same time, Reliance (an oil company) launched at a hitherto-unseen pace an entirely new telco (Jio) with only 4G support (now 5G too, but at the time) and zero legacy infrastructure. Airtel (an older telco) was still using ipv4 in lots of cases. However due to pricing pressure[2] and TRAI pressure, they also switched when their 5G rollout happened in 2022. They changed vendors and with that changed the infrastructure as well. So today they are also in good shape ipv6-wise. See also [3] [1] https://www.dot.gov.in/ipv6-transition-across-stakeholders https://www.dot.gov.in/ipv6-transition-across-stakeholders Edit: hey look the govt drupal page is broken again, shocker. here is another source: https://icrier.org/pdf/IPv6_Transition.pdf https://icrier.org/pdf/IPv6_Transition.pdf [2] The pricing pressure was _real_. 4G was the first time networks moved away from circuit switched to IP-based. So the marginal cost equation became better. And no legacy infra to support. By 2020, they also had funding from google and meta. [3] https://broadbandindiaforum.in/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Report-on-State-of-IPv6-in-India-online_14-JUNE-22.pdf https://broadbandindiaforum.in/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Re...
miyuru 6mo ago
if you want population measurements, there is a APNIC page for that too. https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6pop https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6pop Fair warning, this page is not optimized and takes a lot of resources to render.

by ggm 6mo ago

nslsm 6mo ago

Now compare average income to see how much this matters.

ZeWaka 6mo ago
very transparent.
harvey9 6mo ago
Depends what you are selling and to whom. Meanwhile, India wanted to get a lot of people online and this appears to suit their needs.
signa11 6mo ago
what has _that_ got to do with ipv6 adoption/usage ? afaics, it probably has more to do with large indian-isp’s f.e. jio adopting ipv6.
kmacdough 6mo ago
I'm confused. What's your point? Obviously economies that rely largely on second hand technology are going to have old technology. Much of Africa is in this bucket. But looking past the extremes, India is at nearly 80% right alongside Germany. They fall in very different average income brackets. So the correlation isn't tight. I can't see any value in pointing out vague correlation between income and proliferation of a new technology. It's the most obvious of observations.
imtringued 6mo ago
This has nothing to do with income. The problem here is that India alone would be consuming 20% of the IPv4 address space.

porridgeraisin 6mo ago

It happened in india mainly due to regulatory pressure[1]. It also helped that around the same time, Reliance (an oil company) launched at a hitherto-unseen pace an entirely new telco (Jio) with only 4G support (now 5G too, but at the time) and zero legacy infrastructure. Airtel (an older telco) was still using ipv4 in lots of cases. However due to pricing pressure[2] and TRAI pressure, they also switched when their 5G rollout happened in 2022. They changed vendors and with that changed the infrastructure as well. So today they are also in good shape ipv6-wise. See also [3] [1] https://www.dot.gov.in/ipv6-transition-across-stakeholders https://www.dot.gov.in/ipv6-transition-across-stakeholders Edit: hey look the govt drupal page is broken again, shocker. here is another source: https://icrier.org/pdf/IPv6_Transition.pdf https://icrier.org/pdf/IPv6_Transition.pdf [2] The pricing pressure was _real_. 4G was the first time networks moved away from circuit switched to IP-based. So the marginal cost equation became better. And no legacy infra to support. By 2020, they also had funding from google and meta. [3] https://broadbandindiaforum.in/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Report-on-State-of-IPv6-in-India-online_14-JUNE-22.pdf https://broadbandindiaforum.in/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Re...

miyuru 6mo ago

if you want population measurements, there is a APNIC page for that too. https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6pop https://stats.labs.apnic.net/v6pop Fair warning, this page is not optimized and takes a lot of resources to render.