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For those unfamiliar with the "Dahiya Doctrine"[0] this is exactly that: [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya

by karim79 6mo ago

For those unfamiliar with the "Dahiya Doctrine"[0] this is exactly that: [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

potamic 6mo ago
> The logic is to cause difficulties for the civilian population so much that they will then turn against the militants The beatings will continue until morale improves!
- karim79 6mo ago
  Precisely. Couldn't have said it better myself. +1
- yoaviram 6mo ago
  "If we bomb them some more, those poor citizens will surely realize that we're on their side"
  - expedition32 6mo ago
    Honestly I think we are already passed that. Religious crazies have taken over Israel and they simply don't value the lives of non Jews. They want those poor citizens gone for more Semitic Lebensraum.
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- lemontheme 6mo ago
  Hm, that rather sounds like terrorism
aaron695 6mo ago
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nerdyadventurer 6mo ago
There is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive which was activated in Oct 7. It is simply killing own people and solidiers to avoid capture.
- thisislife2 6mo ago
  The Hannibal Directive - the IDF's infamous "murder-suicide" pact, where in Israel's polity can take a decision to sacrifice their own civilians and soldiers to prevent them from being taken hostage by their enemies. In fact, it is now slowly being revealed that many of the so-called Hamas "savagery" that were hyped up by Israel and the western media about the killed civilians and soldiers were actually the result of Netanyahu government ordering the IDF to shoot, bomb and kill their own people and due to orders to disregard Israeli lives when attacking the Hamas militia: - Israel expanded the use of its murderous “Hannibal Directive” – designed to prevent soldiers from being taken alive as prisoners of war – by killing many of its own civilians. - The use of such “Hannibal” strikes are confirmed in a UN report published in June. - Fire from Israeli helicopters, drones, tanks and even ground troops was deliberately undertaken in order to prevent Palestinian fighters from taking live Israeli captives who could be exchanged for Palestinian prisoners. - At the initiative of the local Gaza Division, “Hannibal” was carried out right away: less than an hour after the Palestinian offensive began. “Not a single vehicle can return to Gaza,” the division was ordered at 11:22 am. - By midday, an unambiguous order was given from the high command of the Israeli military (the so-called “Pit” headquarters, deep under Israel’s Hakirya building in downtown Tel Aviv) to invoke the Hannibal Directive throughout the entire region, “even if this means the endangerment or harming of the lives of civilians in the region, including the captives themselves.” - Israel has been engaged in an aggressive cover-up of its crimes against its own people. - “Every day in captivity was very hard,” one former detainee said at the angry meeting. “I was in a house when there were bombardments all around. We were sitting in tunnels and we were very afraid that, not Hamas, but Israel would kill us, and then they’ll say: ‘Hamas killed you.’” Another released detainee said: “The fact is that I was in a hideaway that was bombed, and we had to be smuggled away, and we were injured. Not to mention that we were shot at by a helicopter when we were on our way to Gaza … You are bombing the tunnel routes exactly in the area where they [the other captives] are.” Think about the irony in that - Hamas wanted to keep, and did more, to keep the Israeli hostages alive than their own government or the IDF! (This is what happens when wacko religious fundamentalists run a country). Sources: 1. How Israel killed its own people on October 7 - https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israel-killed-hundreds-its-own-people-7-october/49216 https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israel-killed-hun... 2. IDF carried out Hannibal Directive, new 'Sword of Damocles' operation on October 7 - https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-844008 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-84400... 3. Israel’s use of Hannibal Directive led to many deaths on October 7, including Israeli civilians - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/07/10/pqkz-j10.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/07/10/pqkz-j10.html
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by karim79 6mo ago

For those unfamiliar with the "Dahiya Doctrine"[0] this is exactly that: [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

potamic 6mo ago

> The logic is to cause difficulties for the civilian population so much that they will then turn against the militants The beatings will continue until morale improves!

karim79 6mo ago
Precisely. Couldn't have said it better myself. +1
yoaviram 6mo ago
"If we bomb them some more, those poor citizens will surely realize that we're on their side"
- expedition32 6mo ago
  Honestly I think we are already passed that. Religious crazies have taken over Israel and they simply don't value the lives of non Jews. They want those poor citizens gone for more Semitic Lebensraum.
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lemontheme 6mo ago
Hm, that rather sounds like terrorism

aaron695 6mo ago

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nerdyadventurer 6mo ago

There is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive which was activated in Oct 7. It is simply killing own people and solidiers to avoid capture.

thisislife2 6mo ago
The Hannibal Directive - the IDF's infamous "murder-suicide" pact, where in Israel's polity can take a decision to sacrifice their own civilians and soldiers to prevent them from being taken hostage by their enemies. In fact, it is now slowly being revealed that many of the so-called Hamas "savagery" that were hyped up by Israel and the western media about the killed civilians and soldiers were actually the result of Netanyahu government ordering the IDF to shoot, bomb and kill their own people and due to orders to disregard Israeli lives when attacking the Hamas militia: - Israel expanded the use of its murderous “Hannibal Directive” – designed to prevent soldiers from being taken alive as prisoners of war – by killing many of its own civilians. - The use of such “Hannibal” strikes are confirmed in a UN report published in June. - Fire from Israeli helicopters, drones, tanks and even ground troops was deliberately undertaken in order to prevent Palestinian fighters from taking live Israeli captives who could be exchanged for Palestinian prisoners. - At the initiative of the local Gaza Division, “Hannibal” was carried out right away: less than an hour after the Palestinian offensive began. “Not a single vehicle can return to Gaza,” the division was ordered at 11:22 am. - By midday, an unambiguous order was given from the high command of the Israeli military (the so-called “Pit” headquarters, deep under Israel’s Hakirya building in downtown Tel Aviv) to invoke the Hannibal Directive throughout the entire region, “even if this means the endangerment or harming of the lives of civilians in the region, including the captives themselves.” - Israel has been engaged in an aggressive cover-up of its crimes against its own people. - “Every day in captivity was very hard,” one former detainee said at the angry meeting. “I was in a house when there were bombardments all around. We were sitting in tunnels and we were very afraid that, not Hamas, but Israel would kill us, and then they’ll say: ‘Hamas killed you.’” Another released detainee said: “The fact is that I was in a hideaway that was bombed, and we had to be smuggled away, and we were injured. Not to mention that we were shot at by a helicopter when we were on our way to Gaza … You are bombing the tunnel routes exactly in the area where they [the other captives] are.” Think about the irony in that - Hamas wanted to keep, and did more, to keep the Israeli hostages alive than their own government or the IDF! (This is what happens when wacko religious fundamentalists run a country). Sources: 1. How Israel killed its own people on October 7 - https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israel-killed-hundreds-its-own-people-7-october/49216 https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-israel-killed-hun... 2. IDF carried out Hannibal Directive, new 'Sword of Damocles' operation on October 7 - https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-844008 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-84400... 3. Israel’s use of Hannibal Directive led to many deaths on October 7, including Israeli civilians - https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/07/10/pqkz-j10.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/07/10/pqkz-j10.html

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