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Going to have to disagree on the backup test. Opus flamingo is actually on the pedals and seat with functional spokes and beak. In terms of adherence to physica
by ericpauley 6mo ago
Going to have to disagree on the backup test. Opus flamingo is actually on the pedals and seat with functional spokes and beak. In terms of adherence to physical reality Qwen is completely off. To me it's a little puzzling that someone would prefer the Qwen output.
I'd say the example actually does (vaguely) suggest that Qwen might be overfitting to the Pelican.
- wongarsu 6mo agoQwen's flamingo is artistically far more interesting. It's a one-eyed flamingo with sunglasses and a bow tie who smokes pot. Meanwhile Opus just made a boring, somewhat dorky flamingo. Even the ground and sky are more interesting in Qwen's version But in terms of making something physically plausible, Opus certainly got a lot closer
- kmacdough 6mo agoGiven adherence is a more significant practical barrier, it's probably the better signal. That is, if we decide too look for signal here.
- doobiedowner 6mo ago[flagged]
- BobbyJo 6mo agoThe fundamental challenge of AI is preventing unprompted creativity. I can spin up a random initialization and call all of it's output avante garde if we want to get creative.
- userbinator 6mo agoI recently fell down the rabbithole of AI-generated videos, and realised that many of the "flaws" that make them distinctive, such as objects morphing and doing unusual things, would've been nearly impossible or require very advanced CGI to create.
- itake 6mo ago"artistically interesting" is IMHO both a subjective and 'solved' problem. These models are trained with an "artistically interesting" reward model that tries to guide the model towards higher quality photos. I think getting the models to generate realistic and proportional objects is a much harder and important challenge (remember when the models would generate 6 fingers?).
- tpm 6mo agoThe Opus bike isn't very physically plausible though.
- tecoholic 6mo agoEven the first one - Qwen added extra details in the background sure. But he Pelican itself is a stork with a bent beak and it's feet is cut off it's legs. While impressive for a local model, I don't think it's a winner.
- mejutoco 6mo agoDid you see opus bike though for that same test? I know it is about the flamingo but that is bad.
- irthomasthomas 6mo agoIt's a 3B model. It should not be this close. Debating their artistic qualities is missing the point.
- monocasa 6mo ago35B, but your point stands I think.
- kube-system 6mo agoQwen, at least, can draw a complete bicycle frame. The opus frame will snap in half and can’t steer.
- gowld 6mo agoQwen's frame is so strong that it broke both feet off the pelican.
- kube-system 6mo agoClearly he's riding a fixie and trying to stop. Pelican didn't drink his Ovaltine.