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Troll post? You state that "other people's cars" facilitate thousands of aspects of modern living, then go on to talk about things that trucks do, not personal

Troll post? You state that "other people's cars" facilitate thousands of aspects of modern living, then go on to talk about things that trucks do, not personal vehicles

Marha01 6mo ago
I don't think it's possible to clearly separate personal vehicles from commercial ones. The technology is the same. Any regulation that tries to ban the one while allowing the other would be a huuuge clusterfuck.
- PsylentKnight 6mo ago
  > The technology is the same I mean sure, they both have engines and wheels, but they're already distinguishable in the eyes of the law. Commercial and personal vehicles are registered separately Anyway, I don't think anyone is proposing banning cars. Just would be good to provide alternatives
  - Supermancho 6mo ago
    > Anyway, I don't think anyone is proposing banning cars. Following the conversation, the subject has not ever been a yes/no referendum on cars. It was if there has been a moral net positive/net negative for vehicular technology (as a comparable technology to AI)...which has consistently been walked back to a nebulous "personal vehicles are a net negative because of how they make people think". That's eerily close to the views on AI today.
- pocksuppet 6mo ago
  You, personally, can't tell the difference between someone's car and a delivery truck?
  - panzagl 6mo ago
    Maybe it's only this way in my suburban US area, but no.
- sensanaty 6mo ago
  > I don't think it's possible to clearly separate personal vehicles from commercial ones What? Of course it is, you can easily impose rules that apply to personal vehicles that don't apply to public transport, logistical vehicles or emergency vehicles. As an example in my neighborhood in the Netherlands, there's basically no streets around me where personal vehicles are allowed, but there are no restrictions to buses, delivery vehicles, moving vans, or ambulances. > Any regulation that tries to ban the one while allowing the other would be a huuuge clusterfuck How? You don't even have to go fancy with specialized license plates or anything like that, it's literally just common sense.
  - bdangubic 6mo ago
    > it's literally just common sense. if that is lacking (often is) $50,000 fine per incident will take care of it

Troll post? You state that "other people's cars" facilitate thousands of aspects of modern living, then go on to talk about things that trucks do, not personal vehicles

Marha01 6mo ago

I don't think it's possible to clearly separate personal vehicles from commercial ones. The technology is the same. Any regulation that tries to ban the one while allowing the other would be a huuuge clusterfuck.

PsylentKnight 6mo ago
> The technology is the same I mean sure, they both have engines and wheels, but they're already distinguishable in the eyes of the law. Commercial and personal vehicles are registered separately Anyway, I don't think anyone is proposing banning cars. Just would be good to provide alternatives
- Supermancho 6mo ago
  > Anyway, I don't think anyone is proposing banning cars. Following the conversation, the subject has not ever been a yes/no referendum on cars. It was if there has been a moral net positive/net negative for vehicular technology (as a comparable technology to AI)...which has consistently been walked back to a nebulous "personal vehicles are a net negative because of how they make people think". That's eerily close to the views on AI today.
pocksuppet 6mo ago
You, personally, can't tell the difference between someone's car and a delivery truck?
- panzagl 6mo ago
  Maybe it's only this way in my suburban US area, but no.
sensanaty 6mo ago
> I don't think it's possible to clearly separate personal vehicles from commercial ones What? Of course it is, you can easily impose rules that apply to personal vehicles that don't apply to public transport, logistical vehicles or emergency vehicles. As an example in my neighborhood in the Netherlands, there's basically no streets around me where personal vehicles are allowed, but there are no restrictions to buses, delivery vehicles, moving vans, or ambulances. > Any regulation that tries to ban the one while allowing the other would be a huuuge clusterfuck How? You don't even have to go fancy with specialized license plates or anything like that, it's literally just common sense.
- bdangubic 6mo ago
  > it's literally just common sense. if that is lacking (often is) $50,000 fine per incident will take care of it