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Why are these projects still on Github? Isn't it better to move away from Github than go through all this shenanigans? This AI slopam nonsense isn't going to st

by throw5 6mo ago

Why are these projects still on Github? Isn't it better to move away from Github than go through all this shenanigans? This AI slopam nonsense isn't going to stop. Github is no longer the "social network" for software dev. It's just a vehicle to shove more and more Copilot stuff. The userbase is also changing. There are vast numbers of new users on Github who have no desire to learn the architecture or culture of the project they are contributing to. They just spin up their favorite LLM and make a PR out of whatever slop comes out. At this point why not move to something like Codeberg? It's based in Europe. It's run by a non-profit. Good chance it won't suffer from the same fate a greedy corporate owned platform would suffer?

embedding-shape 6mo ago
> Why are these projects still on Github? At this point, projects are already on GitHub due to inertia, or they're chasing vanity-metrics together with all the other people on GitHub chasing vanity-metrics. Since the advent of the "README-profiles" many started using with badges/metrics, it been painfully obvious how large this group of people are, where everything is about getting more stars, merging more PRs and having more visits to your website, rather than the code and project itself. These same people put their project on GitHub because the "value" they want is quite literally "GitHub Stars" and try to find more followers. It's basically a platform they hope will help them get discovered via. Besides Codeberg, hosting your own git server (via Forgejo or Gitea) is relatively easy and let you do so how private/public you want.
- duskdozer 6mo ago
  >Besides Codeberg, hosting your own git server (via Forgejo or Gitea) is relatively easy and let you do so how private/public you want. As I've seen it, there's a lot of git=GitHub going on. It wasn't even clear to me for a while that you didn't even need a "git server" and could just use a filepath or ssh location for example.
anymouse123456 6mo ago
> There are vast numbers of new users on Github who have no desire to learn the architecture or culture of the project they are contributing to. The Eternal September eventually comes for us all.
fuhsnn 6mo ago
TinyCC's mob branch on repo.or.cz just got trolled with AI commits today. Nowhere is safe it seems.
raincole 6mo ago
> It's based in Europe. It's run by a non-profit The main SDL maintainer is paid by a US for-profit company, Valve. They don't necessarily share your EU = automatically good attitude. But anyway, if Codeberg really takes off it'll be flooded with AI bots as well. All popular sites will.
- throw5 6mo ago
  > The main SDL maintainer is paid by a US for-profit company, Valve. They don't necessarily share your EU = automatically good attitude. I'm not sure how one follows from the other. I am paid by a US for-profit company. But I still think EU has done some things better. People's beliefs are not determined by the company they work for. It would be a very sad world if people couldn't think outside the bubble of their employers.
  - kdhaskjdhadjk 6mo ago
    In a "existential war" type situation, people who don't wave the flag and shout the slogans of their "home" country and have known sympathies for other places (any at all) will automatically be suspect, and their names will end up in a database for later use. You can be assured that the leanings of Valve are always going to be USA, USA, USA, for reasons that will be clear when you follow the chain of ownership to its source.
    - hurricanepootis 6mo ago
      Pretty sure Gabe's been partying it up in New Zeland ever since he got stuck there because of Covid
      - kdhaskjdhadjk 6mo ago
        1) Gabe's a front man. He doesn't run Valve. 2) New Zealand is a favorite place for Western apparatchiks to build their bunkers. They don't move there out of a love for Kiwi culture and desire to integrate with the locals. Much like their interest in Wyoming/Montana also; they see a place they like, and they go take it over and drive out/murder whoever was there before.
MiiMe19 6mo ago
How does something being based in Europe actually help anyone?
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by throw5 6mo ago

embedding-shape 6mo ago

> Why are these projects still on Github? At this point, projects are already on GitHub due to inertia, or they're chasing vanity-metrics together with all the other people on GitHub chasing vanity-metrics. Since the advent of the "README-profiles" many started using with badges/metrics, it been painfully obvious how large this group of people are, where everything is about getting more stars, merging more PRs and having more visits to your website, rather than the code and project itself. These same people put their project on GitHub because the "value" they want is quite literally "GitHub Stars" and try to find more followers. It's basically a platform they hope will help them get discovered via. Besides Codeberg, hosting your own git server (via Forgejo or Gitea) is relatively easy and let you do so how private/public you want.

duskdozer 6mo ago
>Besides Codeberg, hosting your own git server (via Forgejo or Gitea) is relatively easy and let you do so how private/public you want. As I've seen it, there's a lot of git=GitHub going on. It wasn't even clear to me for a while that you didn't even need a "git server" and could just use a filepath or ssh location for example.

anymouse123456 6mo ago

> There are vast numbers of new users on Github who have no desire to learn the architecture or culture of the project they are contributing to. The Eternal September eventually comes for us all.

fuhsnn 6mo ago

TinyCC's mob branch on repo.or.cz just got trolled with AI commits today. Nowhere is safe it seems.

raincole 6mo ago

> It's based in Europe. It's run by a non-profit The main SDL maintainer is paid by a US for-profit company, Valve. They don't necessarily share your EU = automatically good attitude. But anyway, if Codeberg really takes off it'll be flooded with AI bots as well. All popular sites will.

throw5 6mo ago
> The main SDL maintainer is paid by a US for-profit company, Valve. They don't necessarily share your EU = automatically good attitude. I'm not sure how one follows from the other. I am paid by a US for-profit company. But I still think EU has done some things better. People's beliefs are not determined by the company they work for. It would be a very sad world if people couldn't think outside the bubble of their employers.
- kdhaskjdhadjk 6mo ago
  In a "existential war" type situation, people who don't wave the flag and shout the slogans of their "home" country and have known sympathies for other places (any at all) will automatically be suspect, and their names will end up in a database for later use. You can be assured that the leanings of Valve are always going to be USA, USA, USA, for reasons that will be clear when you follow the chain of ownership to its source.
  - hurricanepootis 6mo ago
    Pretty sure Gabe's been partying it up in New Zeland ever since he got stuck there because of Covid
    - kdhaskjdhadjk 6mo ago
      1) Gabe's a front man. He doesn't run Valve. 2) New Zealand is a favorite place for Western apparatchiks to build their bunkers. They don't move there out of a love for Kiwi culture and desire to integrate with the locals. Much like their interest in Wyoming/Montana also; they see a place they like, and they go take it over and drive out/murder whoever was there before.

MiiMe19 6mo ago

How does something being based in Europe actually help anyone?

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