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Same as Facebook: They got big by the Zuck sucking messages and content from MySpace - then Facebook afterwards lobbied to put laws in place to forbid this kind

Same as Facebook: They got big by the Zuck sucking messages and content from MySpace - then Facebook afterwards lobbied to put laws in place to forbid this kind of 'interoperability' across platforms. Youtube started out 'allegedly' by members of their team uploading pirated hollywood movies (because they had no content), posing as users to fall under the "user-content" policy to make the company not liable. They are all breaking the rules all the way down, but when they make it, they know exactly what to do to fill the loopholes to prevent others to do to them what they did on others. That's big tech's ethics for you: Move fast and break things, then wall yourself in.

NDlurker 6mo ago
The YouTube thing doesn't sound right. They had a ¿10? minute video limit for a long time and it was really annoying to watch pirated stuff on there. Google Video had a lot of full movies before they bought YouTube and shut it down.
- sebastiansm7 6mo ago
  Still remember those times watching movies or documentaries by parts. Sometimes I started watching just to discover that part 8 was missing :( edit: in previous years some anime communities uploaded episodes to photo sites. They chunked the episodes in small JPGs with the video data encrypted. Just download hundreds of photos, join them and you got the episode :)
  - andai 6mo ago
    Wow, how did that work? Steganography?
  - someguyornotidk 6mo ago
    Remember this :) I also remember how we (I?) used to hard link the /tmp/RANDOM.tmp files that youtube buffered into so the video parts don't get automatically unlinked and we could then stitch them back with ffmpeg or whatever buggy fork ubuntu had in its repos. Full Star wars in glorious 240p! (I had shitty internet.) The good old days. Back when people called streaming what it really is (downloading) and exercised their god-given right to keep what was sent to them.
  - zhengyi13 6mo ago
    Wild to see the usenet/uuencoding model reproduced on the web w/ jpegs.
    - sebastiansm7 6mo ago
      Then with the raise of rapidshare, megaupload, etc that JPG thing stopped.
- figmert 6mo ago
  I think it was 15 minutes? Or maybe it was upped to 15 mins? But yes, it was super annoying when part n of something was missing.
everyone 6mo ago
https://youtu.be/cBHouBDjqsc?si=Huil8xJys3VkYbGU https://youtu.be/cBHouBDjqsc?si=Huil8xJys3VkYbGU
alex1138 6mo ago
Did Zuck really take messages and content? I know they had a certain "interoperability tool" that conveniently only worked in one direction but I didn't know it went that far
testfrequency 6mo ago
Anthropic and OpenAI have entered the chat
hollow-moe 6mo ago
Same as Crunchyroll with pirated anime fansubs.
an0malous 6mo ago
Airbnb did the same with Craigslist posts. Reddit did the same with Digg posts. OpenAI mastered the technique by stealing basically the entire Internet.

NDlurker 6mo ago

The YouTube thing doesn't sound right. They had a ¿10? minute video limit for a long time and it was really annoying to watch pirated stuff on there. Google Video had a lot of full movies before they bought YouTube and shut it down.

sebastiansm7 6mo ago
Still remember those times watching movies or documentaries by parts. Sometimes I started watching just to discover that part 8 was missing :( edit: in previous years some anime communities uploaded episodes to photo sites. They chunked the episodes in small JPGs with the video data encrypted. Just download hundreds of photos, join them and you got the episode :)
- andai 6mo ago
  Wow, how did that work? Steganography?
- someguyornotidk 6mo ago
  Remember this :) I also remember how we (I?) used to hard link the /tmp/RANDOM.tmp files that youtube buffered into so the video parts don't get automatically unlinked and we could then stitch them back with ffmpeg or whatever buggy fork ubuntu had in its repos. Full Star wars in glorious 240p! (I had shitty internet.) The good old days. Back when people called streaming what it really is (downloading) and exercised their god-given right to keep what was sent to them.
- zhengyi13 6mo ago
  Wild to see the usenet/uuencoding model reproduced on the web w/ jpegs.
  - sebastiansm7 6mo ago
    Then with the raise of rapidshare, megaupload, etc that JPG thing stopped.
figmert 6mo ago
I think it was 15 minutes? Or maybe it was upped to 15 mins? But yes, it was super annoying when part n of something was missing.

everyone 6mo ago

https://youtu.be/cBHouBDjqsc?si=Huil8xJys3VkYbGU https://youtu.be/cBHouBDjqsc?si=Huil8xJys3VkYbGU

alex1138 6mo ago

Did Zuck really take messages and content? I know they had a certain "interoperability tool" that conveniently only worked in one direction but I didn't know it went that far

testfrequency 6mo ago

Anthropic and OpenAI have entered the chat

hollow-moe 6mo ago

Same as Crunchyroll with pirated anime fansubs.

an0malous 6mo ago

Airbnb did the same with Craigslist posts. Reddit did the same with Digg posts. OpenAI mastered the technique by stealing basically the entire Internet.