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Slightly OT: How is it possible that the operators are unidentified? Surely someone must own the domain and pay upkeep for that? Wouldn't that expose at least o

Slightly OT: How is it possible that the operators are unidentified? Surely someone must own the domain and pay upkeep for that? Wouldn't that expose at least one of them?

fc417fc802 6mo ago
Yes your honor, we've identified one Big Bird of 123 Sesame St as being affiliated with the operators of the site based on the registration data. The only reason you have to tell the truth is if you want to reduce the risk of arbitrarily losing control of the domain, such as having a chance to contest any abuse reports that might be filed against you.
- zaphirplane 6mo ago
  It’s well established if the US wants to they can find them and crypto can be traced. Same question though how are they paying for the domain, assuming this is on the plaintiff to trace
  - bulbar 6mo ago
    What does "finding them" even means in this context? There are many hacker organizations located in Russia that are much worse than Anna's Archive. From my understanding those also operate websites / platforms to offer services.
  - nothinkjustai 6mo ago
    Well clearly that’s false? Not all crypto transactions are traceable for example. And since they haven’t found them, that seems to disprove your statement doesn’t it?
    - zaphirplane 6mo ago
      Not really this is civil case not the full weight of a state behind it
  - flexagoon 6mo ago
    > crypto can be traced Anna's Archive exclusively uses Monero, which can't be by design
Deadsunrise 6mo ago
there are ways to buy domains using crypto and being completely anonymous.
pjc50 6mo ago
This is presumably the real target of the lawsuit: the domain operators. There will likely be injunctions taking down the domains.
- adrian_b 6mo ago
  Some of the Anna domains have been taken down a few weeks ago.
adrian_b 6mo ago
Several domains previously used by Anna have been lost. I assume that they may have been seized as a consequence of this trial.

Slightly OT: How is it possible that the operators are unidentified? Surely someone must own the domain and pay upkeep for that? Wouldn't that expose at least one of them?

fc417fc802 6mo ago

Yes your honor, we've identified one Big Bird of 123 Sesame St as being affiliated with the operators of the site based on the registration data. The only reason you have to tell the truth is if you want to reduce the risk of arbitrarily losing control of the domain, such as having a chance to contest any abuse reports that might be filed against you.

zaphirplane 6mo ago
It’s well established if the US wants to they can find them and crypto can be traced. Same question though how are they paying for the domain, assuming this is on the plaintiff to trace
- bulbar 6mo ago
  What does "finding them" even means in this context? There are many hacker organizations located in Russia that are much worse than Anna's Archive. From my understanding those also operate websites / platforms to offer services.
- nothinkjustai 6mo ago
  Well clearly that’s false? Not all crypto transactions are traceable for example. And since they haven’t found them, that seems to disprove your statement doesn’t it?
  - zaphirplane 6mo ago
    Not really this is civil case not the full weight of a state behind it
- flexagoon 6mo ago
  > crypto can be traced Anna's Archive exclusively uses Monero, which can't be by design

Deadsunrise 6mo ago

there are ways to buy domains using crypto and being completely anonymous.

pjc50 6mo ago

This is presumably the real target of the lawsuit: the domain operators. There will likely be injunctions taking down the domains.

adrian_b 6mo ago
Some of the Anna domains have been taken down a few weeks ago.

adrian_b 6mo ago

Several domains previously used by Anna have been lost. I assume that they may have been seized as a consequence of this trial.