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(Caveat I’m the founder of https://wassist.app https://wassist.app - The WhatsApp Agent Platform) Please be very careful using this tool to automate your Whats

(Caveat I’m the founder of https://wassist.app https://wassist.app - The WhatsApp Agent Platform) Please be very careful using this tool to automate your WhatsApp - if you send too many messages, too quickly, you are going to get banned. This is NOT an officially supported api by WhatsApp and the risk of ban is relatively high

batuhanicoz 6mo ago
The way I would put it as someone who works at Beeper is: only use messaging automations for personal use, and don't use it to spam anyone or do anything you wouldn't do yourself within the app. As long as you don't abuse and keep your usage within the parameters of any human, you'll be fine.
- sigmoid10 6mo ago
  ...until Meta decides they want to offer this kind of thing themselves and ban everyone else. Building your SaaS on top of someone else's SaaS is always a gamble, especially if said product is directly sold to users already and not a pure b2b intermediate.
  - NoahZuniga 6mo ago
    Meta already has a whatsapp api product
    - TeMPOraL 6mo ago
      For spammers. They don't have one for regular people who want to do regular end-user computation.
      - pancsta 6mo ago
        Companies in spain use it for legitimate reasons, so its more a lack of usage which makes spam the only usage?
        TeMPOraL 6mo ago
        I consider marketing use to be spam, and this is what the API is primarily meant for. I understand that WhatsApp is kinda special in that it effectively replaced SMS in some parts of the world, but IMO this needs to be looked at through the lens of other Meta effort. The same is the case with Facebook/Messenger, and has been since before WhatsApp has been a (Meta) thing - they offer multiple different official ways to support spamming users and tricking them to buy stuff, but may the Lord have mercy on you should you want to create an auto-responder or "save to calendar" script and hook it up to your personal account.
        filcuk 6mo ago
        Who mentioned marketing? It's used for package tracking, order updates, bookings and so on where I live.
        TeMPOraL 6mo ago
        Not where I live, presumably not in the US, and it doesn't look like the main use case emphasized in the developer/integration documentation.
      - c0balt 6mo ago
        That seems a but pessimistic. A few companies use it for customer service, like ime Adidas Germany [0] (they handled an exchange for me once on there). It is effectively just another customer support line like a chat portal on a website. [0]: https://www.adidas.de/en/help/contact-us https://www.adidas.de/en/help/contact-us
      - kamma4434 6mo ago
        I personally find the almost absence of spam on WhatsApp a big success story for it. Think about how much Spam still hits your email inbox (and nobody knows how much is filtered away before it does). I totally understand why they try and make it hard for integration to happen. When compared to classic SMS, the fact that you need to start a conversation with a preapproved template means that they have a way to control casual interactions.
  - joshwarwick15 6mo ago
    They're already outright banning many OpenClaw usecases via their official API: https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/18/whatssapp-changes-its-terms-to-bar-general-purpose-chatbots-from-its-platform/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/18/whatssapp-changes-its-term...
  - trashb 6mo ago
    Since recently Meta offers this as per European Union mandate (Digital Markets Act, DMA). For both Whatsapp and Facebook messaging. [0] Now there are a lot of implementation requirements, basically forcing you to have some kind of messaging provider. Therefore difficult to apply for an open source solution. However there is such an interface. [0] https://developers.facebook.com/m/messaging-interoperability/ https://developers.facebook.com/m/messaging-interoperability...
- nurettin 6mo ago
  Personal use is all fun and games until your little beeper goes into a loop.
- boxingdog 6mo ago
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- theoryaway 6mo ago
  Someone who previously helped a project Barista/instagrabber, you should be wary of it. https://web.archive.org/web/20240527132615/https://austinhuang.me/barinsta.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240527132615/https://austinhua...
  - fg137 6mo ago
    That's quite... something. I (almost) don't use any Meta products, but this just convinces me that I should stay away from it as far as possible.
swyx 6mo ago
just so we know the consequences - is ban permanent? is there an appeals processes?
- pedroslopez 6mo ago
  When banned it'll give you means to reach out to support, you can claim ignorance and get unbanned. I've gone through this, having done some whatsapp automation myself, YMMV though.
  - swyx 6mo ago
    very helpful, thanks. good on WA for providing actually working support. people will fuck up when testing legitimate stuff, it happens.
ezst 6mo ago
Exactly, "automate your WhatsApp/Signal/..." sounds like "use XMPP for that use case", that's my go-to for bots and notifications, it works as well if not better, and I sleep better at night.
faangguyindia 6mo ago
Do you know a way i can use to trigger call to self for notification purpose? like site down notification via whatsapp or telegram call?

batuhanicoz 6mo ago

The way I would put it as someone who works at Beeper is: only use messaging automations for personal use, and don't use it to spam anyone or do anything you wouldn't do yourself within the app. As long as you don't abuse and keep your usage within the parameters of any human, you'll be fine.

sigmoid10 6mo ago
...until Meta decides they want to offer this kind of thing themselves and ban everyone else. Building your SaaS on top of someone else's SaaS is always a gamble, especially if said product is directly sold to users already and not a pure b2b intermediate.
- NoahZuniga 6mo ago
  Meta already has a whatsapp api product
  - TeMPOraL 6mo ago
    For spammers. They don't have one for regular people who want to do regular end-user computation.
    - pancsta 6mo ago
      Companies in spain use it for legitimate reasons, so its more a lack of usage which makes spam the only usage?
      - TeMPOraL 6mo ago
        I consider marketing use to be spam, and this is what the API is primarily meant for. I understand that WhatsApp is kinda special in that it effectively replaced SMS in some parts of the world, but IMO this needs to be looked at through the lens of other Meta effort. The same is the case with Facebook/Messenger, and has been since before WhatsApp has been a (Meta) thing - they offer multiple different official ways to support spamming users and tricking them to buy stuff, but may the Lord have mercy on you should you want to create an auto-responder or "save to calendar" script and hook it up to your personal account.
        filcuk 6mo ago
        Who mentioned marketing? It's used for package tracking, order updates, bookings and so on where I live.
        TeMPOraL 6mo ago
        Not where I live, presumably not in the US, and it doesn't look like the main use case emphasized in the developer/integration documentation.
    - c0balt 6mo ago
      That seems a but pessimistic. A few companies use it for customer service, like ime Adidas Germany [0] (they handled an exchange for me once on there). It is effectively just another customer support line like a chat portal on a website. [0]: https://www.adidas.de/en/help/contact-us https://www.adidas.de/en/help/contact-us
    - kamma4434 6mo ago
      I personally find the almost absence of spam on WhatsApp a big success story for it. Think about how much Spam still hits your email inbox (and nobody knows how much is filtered away before it does). I totally understand why they try and make it hard for integration to happen. When compared to classic SMS, the fact that you need to start a conversation with a preapproved template means that they have a way to control casual interactions.
- joshwarwick15 6mo ago
  They're already outright banning many OpenClaw usecases via their official API: https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/18/whatssapp-changes-its-terms-to-bar-general-purpose-chatbots-from-its-platform/ https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/18/whatssapp-changes-its-term...
- trashb 6mo ago
  Since recently Meta offers this as per European Union mandate (Digital Markets Act, DMA). For both Whatsapp and Facebook messaging. [0] Now there are a lot of implementation requirements, basically forcing you to have some kind of messaging provider. Therefore difficult to apply for an open source solution. However there is such an interface. [0] https://developers.facebook.com/m/messaging-interoperability/ https://developers.facebook.com/m/messaging-interoperability...
nurettin 6mo ago
Personal use is all fun and games until your little beeper goes into a loop.
boxingdog 6mo ago
[dead]
theoryaway 6mo ago
Someone who previously helped a project Barista/instagrabber, you should be wary of it. https://web.archive.org/web/20240527132615/https://austinhuang.me/barinsta.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240527132615/https://austinhua...
- fg137 6mo ago
  That's quite... something. I (almost) don't use any Meta products, but this just convinces me that I should stay away from it as far as possible.

swyx 6mo ago

just so we know the consequences - is ban permanent? is there an appeals processes?

pedroslopez 6mo ago
When banned it'll give you means to reach out to support, you can claim ignorance and get unbanned. I've gone through this, having done some whatsapp automation myself, YMMV though.
- swyx 6mo ago
  very helpful, thanks. good on WA for providing actually working support. people will fuck up when testing legitimate stuff, it happens.

ezst 6mo ago

Exactly, "automate your WhatsApp/Signal/..." sounds like "use XMPP for that use case", that's my go-to for bots and notifications, it works as well if not better, and I sleep better at night.

faangguyindia 6mo ago

Do you know a way i can use to trigger call to self for notification purpose? like site down notification via whatsapp or telegram call?